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 matt_himself  Matataland 22 Apr 17 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
You are nuts. You can't answer the questions? What a surprise.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 22 Apr 17 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You can't answer the questions? What a surprise. The rule is that countries do not interfere in one an others affairs. The USA choose their President and the EU choose their leaders. What can be remotely unethical about trade talks between them. I was a bit short ok
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| Stirlingsays 22 Apr 17 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That's a bit silly nobody including the USA knows what our future is so how can they conclude a free trade deal. Really?....no one knows what our future is? We are leaving the EU...We still have a skills based economy heavy on financial services. It's more about intent than the details. Trump is certainly more pro British than Obama ever was...just as the right are in general more pro the nation state than the left. The modern day left have done more for foreigners than the British working class.....It's mostly why they have abandoned the party.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Apr 17 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Really?....no one knows what our future is? We are leaving the EU...We still have a skills based economy heavy on financial services. It's more about intent than the details. Trump is certainly more pro British than Obama ever was...just as the right are in general more pro the EU state than the left. The modern day left have done more for foreigners than the British working class.....It's mostly why they have abandoned the party.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 22 Apr 17 6.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Really?....no one knows what our future is? We are leaving the EU...We still have a skills based economy heavy on financial services. It's more about intent than the details. Trump is certainly more pro British than Obama ever was...just as the right are in general more pro the nation state than the left. The modern day left have done more for foreigners than the British working class.....It's mostly why they have abandoned the party. Yes we are leaving the EU but that is it nobody knows what our future trading arrangements will be. If it becomes known the USA and UK may both want a trade deal but that may be years ahead. It is a surprise actually as the Germans were not in favour of TIPP viewing it as unworkable. Left or right each Brit is as patriotic as he feels they all turned up in the war. Donald Trump is not coming to Mrs May's rescue that doesn't mean he is not a friend.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Apr 17 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trump won't betray Britain. It isn't in his dna. We will have a good deal with the US. Many of the left with their anti-Americanism do nothing but harm this country. But they rarely give a damn about that because national pride is an illusion to them. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Apr 2017 2.58pm) And yet you have voted for something which is almost certainly going to make so many worse off through increased foodstuff costs and for a very likely economic downturn which, in turn, means less tax revenue for public services. And that will be the tip of the Brexit iceberg. Thanks very much for your 'pride' and 'patriotism' from all those that will hit negatively by it. With friends like you and your ilk the UK doesn't need enemies. And "Trump won't betray Britain" ?- Emotive claptrap from a sentimentalist. He will do what he thinks is in his and the US's best interests. Notice i put 'his' first. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Apr 2017 6.47pm)
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Apr 17 6.52pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And yet you have voted for something which is almost certainly going to make so many worse off through increased foodstuff costs and for a very likely economic downturn which, in turn, means less tax revenue for public services. And that will be the tip of the Brexit iceberg. Thanks very much for your 'pride' and 'patriotism' from all those that will hit negatively by it. With friends like you and your ilk the UK doesn't need enemies. And "Trump won't betray Britain" ?- Emotive claptrap from a sentimentalist. He will do what he thinks is in his and the US's best interests. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Apr 2017 6.46pm) You put down emotive claptrap after writing emotive claptrap. Hilarious!
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| Stirlingsays 22 Apr 17 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Yes we are leaving the EU but that is it nobody knows what our future trading arrangements will be. If it becomes known the USA and UK may both want a trade deal but that may be years ahead. It is a surprise actually as the Germans were not in favour of TIPP viewing it as unworkable. Left or right each Brit is as patriotic as he feels they all turned up in the war. Donald Trump is not coming to Mrs May's rescue that doesn't mean he is not a friend. Individualists and egalitarians don't tend to be very good in wars. There were very few people who could be described as being from the 'progressive' left back when this country fought a world war.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Apr 17 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You put down emotive claptrap after writing emotive claptrap. Hilarious! Yeah, kind of what I was thinking.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Apr 17 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And yet you have voted for something which is almost certainly going to make so many worse off through increased foodstuff costs and for a very likely economic downturn which, in turn, means less tax revenue for public services. And that will be the tip of the Brexit iceberg. Thanks very much for your 'pride' and 'patriotism' from all those that will hit negatively by it. With friends like you and your ilk the UK doesn't need enemies. And "Trump won't betray Britain" ?- Emotive claptrap from a sentimentalist. He will do what he thinks is in his and the US's best interests. Notice i put 'his' first. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Apr 2017 6.47pm) Yeah I did vote for British independence from the EU. I value that notion more than just money. I hope and expect that we can do well....but I believe in the nation state. Hell... you consider yourself Scottish.....Even though you won't sodding live there and as I remember you supported Scottish independence on these forums.....Well that's an outcome that would have almost certainly have resulted in Scotland being worse off. Yet you supported it.....Money didn't seem to matter so much then did it? And then you have the cheek to type that up. At least I am consistent. Hypocrite.
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| davenotamonkey 22 Apr 17 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah I did vote for British independence from the EU. I value that notion more than just money. I hope and expect that we can do well....but I believe in the nation state. Hell... you consider yourself Scottish.....Even though you won't sodding live there and as I remember you supported Scottish independence on these forums.....Well that's an outcome that would have almost certainly have resulted in Scotland being worse off. Yet you supported it.....Money didn't seem to matter so much then did it? And then you have the cheek to type that up. At least I am consistent. Hypocrite. ^ Anen, brother
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| Stirlingsays 22 Apr 17 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Yes we are leaving the EU but that is it nobody knows what our future trading arrangements will be. If it becomes known the USA and UK may both want a trade deal but that may be years ahead. It is a surprise actually as the Germans were not in favour of TIPP viewing it as unworkable. Left or right each Brit is as patriotic as he feels they all turned up in the war. Donald Trump is not coming to Mrs May's rescue that doesn't mean he is not a friend. I do agree that it's all to play for. Also, I agree that Trump puts his own country's interests first....hell he should. However, it's obvious that all things being equal he has a preference for this country....Which is more than we can say for Obama. Apparently his officials use to s****** at the term 'special relationship'. Well, we don't get that anymore. I hope we get something done...In fact I'm sure we will have something sorted around 2020. This is a trading nation with vast links both historical and commercial. Our reputation is better than most. So we are better placed than most. Little of that is down to the left of course. The ideological left rarely push this country forward in terms of trade. Lots of them complain while asking those who do make money for tax handouts.
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