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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 20 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

 


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‘ There is a 1.1% false positive rate in this PCR test. These kits are global.
But that’s not the main problem.

The eagled-eyed note that NL63 is an endemic common cold causing virus. It’s from the coronavirus family.
It’s capable of coming out...’

 


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‘The more people who get tested, the higher chance of the common cold getting picked as a false positive.. Which is skewing results with the children returning to school etc?‘

‘ I think that’s possible, yes. I have to say, I do not know which kits are used where. It seems to be a state secret in that I cannot find out. Just like cycle thresholds are a state secret. It’s risible. If it’s all so clear, put the data on the cloud, obv anonymised. Why not?’

 


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Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Oct 2020 12.29pm)

 


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No I don’t have Aspergers but I’ve provided his statements on what has actually been said and is happening with some data and evidence.

Conclude that the virus wasn’t allowed to play out in areas up north plus probably some ignorance and stubbornness in taking very few precautions.

I wouldn’t advise or give my opinion to anyone in person to completely ignore this, but I certainly am not taking these figures and another round of media fear after the last government memo fear drive machine, especially after seeing that blatant lie of 50,000 cases per day they stood in front of a few weeks ago, that we wouldn’t be near in a couple of weeks even if we didn’t impose the infection causing 10pm curfew, or the rule of 6 well before Christmas season either. More political theatre and politicking forcing government to do it, same as this nonsensical circuit breaker of 2-3 weeks.

Unless some major change or setup of facilities or policies happen in 2-3 weeks it is completely pointless and possibly making it worse. But you keep on getting people pleading or demanding we have one and anyone opposing it is a sociopath or psychopath. Well let’s end furlough or fast forward to mass unemployment, their unemployment and see opinion polls change and no doubt opinions on lockdowns, restrictions and no doubt other things. That opinion changing has probably happened on schools and universities returning, without considering false test results, while they probably agreed children need school and education.

On the matter of testing my family. Only if symptomatic, and that’s only of benefit to you and your family if you need hospital treatment or possibly to isolate an individual with symptoms. Otherwise tests are to protect the community outside, which is fair enough. Have symptoms, test positive, isolate. Fair enough. Have an asymptomatic text? No. Isolate with a sniffle? No.

I’ll close the door on councils earning £1/£2 per positive test testing. I oppose this individually and strategically in the way it’s being done, used and reported without context and fudging/falsifying other data including very important admissions, ICU data and deaths data in spring/summer. Many of us looked at the admissions numbers for a truer picture, only they’ve manipulated that too now.


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 20 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When it comes to a 'why' we have had authoritarian lockdowns by many but not all European states you can find plenty of 'takes'.

I don't hold with many of them...I may have suspicions but I don't like to state them when that's what they are.

However, regarding a 'why', what I am prepared to back is the fear of accountability. A willingness to give more weight to the worst case because its adherents shout the loudest.

Essentially fear not logic has dictated the national course. For me, wherever emotion and not reason decides the route the destination is unlikely to be fruitful

Politicians all over the west were faced with a biological threat that they had no idea of how to respond to.....Hence they stuck rigidly to whatever the consensus was of their chosen medical leaders. The politicians were too scared to be held to account so they off loaded that responsibility and hid behind 'experts'.

The experts who were chosen initially had an approach I agreed with....an approach similar to Sweden's. However, they saw the reactions of fear from the media and caved to the worst case scenarios being put forward....not the most likely....but by doing this they avoided any chance of blame if it happened....they knew that ultimately the politicians would find a way of defending this approach whatever the outcome because they were in the same boat.....they knew that criticism for an over reaction was less worse than for an under reaction.

As a result untold damage and not a little long term indirect death has been inflicted. Manipulations of the truth were used....as shown in the video....to heighten fear over reality.

We haven't had the best decisions made, instead we have had the most expedient decisions. Everything is about shifting blame.

In Sweden and in most East Asian countries, the same thing happened but a different medical consensus and approach was reached......Do you notice that the media are talking far less about Sweden now...talking far less about deaths and hospitalizations and instead it's all about a rise in cases.....Well, if you're testing more that's going to happen.

Those with the microphone will present the narrative that is best for them. I lost faith in that being related to an honest appraisal a long time ago.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Sep 2020 6.34am)

11 Sept, a month and a few days ago.

Agreed then, agree now.

 


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Michael Yeadon is good value.
Trouble is the Boris and co. only take their advice from SAGE and I am beginning to think that they have a vested interest in a recession and lockdown!
Boris needs to stick with the tier system and see what happens.
SAGE say a temporary lockdown will save 7,000 lives - if we don't have one and those figures do not materialise then they are talking S**t.
Go Boris!

 

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Worth seeing

 


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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Michael Yeadon is good value.
Trouble is the Boris and co. only take their advice from SAGE and I am beginning to think that they have a vested interest in a recession and lockdown!
Boris needs to stick with the tier system and see what happens.
SAGE say a temporary lockdown will save 7,000 lives - if we don't have one and those figures do not materialise then they are talking S**t.
Go Boris!

Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Oct 2020 3.02pm)

 


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