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davenotamonkey Flag 07 Apr 17 11.07am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Fantastic news. The EU Clinical Trials directive, as enforced by this body, has very severely curtailed clinical trial-led research in this country, with output dropping sharply after the directive was rubber-stamped. This has impacted cancer and HIV research. The next millstone around the neck of biomedical research, due next year, is an EU Regulation: so wouldn't even be rubber-stamped by the Commons, it just passes into law with ZERO debate here. This regulation will be even more restrictive (the EU just love top-down Soviet-style red tape).

Our biomedical research industry is huge, but has been throttled (as with a lot of science shoehorned into lobbyist-driven "EU frameworks") by excessive bureaucratic overhead and restrictive constraints not encountered in powerhouses like the US.

Moreover, to suggest a regulatory body in existence, purely because of (excessive) EU oversight, would remain in a non-EU country is hilarious. My bet is a vast number of actual (ie useful, and not pen-pushing) jobs in the EMA will move to the Wellcome Trust, Sanger Institute etc.

Dropping the excessive over-regulation of research will accelerate bio-funding into the UK, generate more jobs and (hopefully) lead to advances that will combat scourges like AIDS and Parkinson's. I won't be sad to see the EMA go.

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Hoof Hearted 07 Apr 17 11.29am

Originally posted by Nest

you cannot shake hands with a clenched fist

But you can give your boyfriend a nice surprise in bed early in the morning (or so I'm told)

 

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legaleagle Flag 09 Apr 17 1.58pm

Interesting take on the Gibraltar "issue".

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Apr 17 2.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I visited Gibraltar on a cruise holiday once....Weird place, I didn't much like it....though I was only there for half a day.

I'll be damned if I'd just give it up though.

 


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legaleagle Flag 09 Apr 17 8.22pm

No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover...

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 09 Apr 17 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover...

Tax havens make the world go round. As a lawyer, you of all people should understand that.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Apr 17 8.38pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

No one is talking about giving it up.Rather, that the EU and Spain are not being completely unreasonable (now we have told it to F Off), to want a say about any deal struck regarding the "dodgy" tax haven located at one end of Spain,undermining,for example,its tax revenue.As the linked article said,imagine if it was the other way round and the tax haven was located at Dover...

Maybe we should bring the status of similar tax havens, in Malta, Ireland and Luxembourg, in Brexit talks.

Given the moral high ground the EU is seeking to impose on Britain with regards to Gibraltar, one would assume that eradicating tax havens is something they wish to do across the whole continent, no?

 


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legaleagle Flag 09 Apr 17 8.48pm

We can of course try to do so.

My point was a different one.

That it would be hypocritical to moan about the EU and Spain bringing the economic status and privileges of a (non part of the Uk) tax haven presently enjoying a privileged EU access status into the negotiations over future market access.

It is not about morality, just realpolitik, and our faux moral outrage that Johnny Foreigner should do such a thing when realpolitik has been the essence of our foreign policy for centuries...we were not known as perfidious albion for nothing,no?

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.20pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

We can of course try to do so.

My point was a different one.

That it would be hypocritical to moan about the EU and Spain bringing the economic status and privileges of a (non part of the Uk) tax haven presently enjoying a privileged EU access status into the negotiations over future market access.

It is not about morality, just realpolitik, and our faux moral outrage that Johnny Foreigner should do such a thing when realpolitik has been the essence of our foreign policy for centuries...we were not known as perfidious albion for nothing,no?

I find it amusing that Bremoaners are the ones who use the 'Johnny Foreigner' type language to illustrate their points. It's kind of self defeating to that language, when Leavers aren't, no?

You point has appeared to morph from being a criticism of Gibraltar's tax status, supporting Spain's stance, to stating that all Leavers are against other countries using relpolitik. I find that spurious and weird, that you can label a group like that, which is far from homogeneous, from holding such a collective view. It's also going off in a strange tangent, one which appears to confirm that whilst you possess a modicum of intelligence, not all the wires in your head are connected properly and you regularly spout bizarre ramblings as a result.

Or you are a 'functioning alcoholic' and have just walloped a pint of brandy.

 


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legaleagle Flag 09 Apr 17 9.26pm

Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness.

I lost!

One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no?

Nighty night xxx

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Apr 17 9.35pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Dash,I bet with myself you would at least make a second "sensible" post before lapsing into your usual biliousness.

I lost!

One thing's for sure,you (in your online persona) are a "functioning nutcase",no?

Nighty night xxx

So questioning your weird and seemingly unconnected points, isn't sensible?

I guess some people love dishing out stuff but don't like getting it back, no?

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Apr 17 9.42pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

After the UK whatever is left of it leaves the EU power bloc I wonder if the option of a joint sovereignity of Gibraltar will still be attractive to Spain as it was a few years ago.

To those of us who query Spain's right to it why not look at the map it is not even an island.

What would our reaction be if the Isle of Wight was Spanish?

Perfidious Albion as always but don't have the clout anymore.

 

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