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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 03 Apr 17 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Hmm Sh*t posted by (yet another) moron on Facebook. Why does this drivel merit our especial attention?
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 elgrande bedford 03 Apr 17 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Hmm Yeah they tried that before nick,closing the border...then realised that the Spanish people who work on the rock couldn't get into work....so they opened it again.
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| nhp61 Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 03 Apr 17 1.28pm |
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Spain renewing their demands for Gibraltar could open a big unwanted can of worms, and accusations of hypocrisy, regarding their enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. The two Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla, on the northern coast of Morocco, have long been coveted by Morocco, in much the same way that Gibraltar is coveted by Spain. If Spain is seen to be overly aggressive in their talk of wanting Gibraltar, the Moroccans may well start renewing their demands for Ceuta and Melilla.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 Apr 17 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by nhp61
Spain renewing their demands for Gibraltar could open a big unwanted can of worms, and accusations of hypocrisy, regarding their enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. The two Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla, on the northern coast of Morocco, have long been coveted by Morocco, in much the same way that Gibraltar is coveted by Spain. If Spain is seen to be overly aggressive in their talk of wanting Gibraltar, the Moroccans may well start renewing their demands for Ceuta and Melilla. Where's Francis Drake when you need him?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Apr 17 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
I doubt for one minute that Spain would enter into conflict with us over who owns Gibraltar. Spain has been trying for years to get us to give it up even going back to the 60's and 70's when I was stationed in Gibraltar. Spain closed the border to try and get the UK to give it up but all it did was to stop all the Spanish people getting into work in Gibraltar and in the end the border was opened up again. Last year Spain had its one and only gunboat trying to get into the naval base and it was very very quickly told to f@ck off by one of our ships that was in the base getting stores and water. Spain will be forever trying to get us to give up Gibraltar but will be told again and again to get lost.. Very Much like May has told the Poison Dwarf in Scotland to do every time she brings up her independence referendum. No ones going to fight over Gibraltar, the only people who really are likely to 'argue' over it are Spain and Britain, but its real value has long since faded in the modern age (i.e. as a Naval base capable of controlling access to the Mediterranean). I guess it really should depend on what the population of Gibraltar want. Much like the Falklands. My guess is nothing much will change, both sides will posture over the Island, but in truth I doubt Spain really want it that much. Its like the Falklands, Argentina pull it out when there are domestic political issues to divert from. A bit of nationalist tubthumping. I suspect we do the same. Except for the theoretical possibility of off shore oil reserves, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that neither the UK or Argentina would regard the Falklands as an economical boon.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Apr 17 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Where's Francis Drake when you need him?
Waiting on his man Walsingham.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Apr 17 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
No ones going to fight over Gibraltar, the only people who really are likely to 'argue' over it are Spain and Britain, but its real value has long since faded in the modern age (i.e. as a Naval base capable of controlling access to the Mediterranean). I guess it really should depend on what the population of Gibraltar want. Much like the Falklands. My guess is nothing much will change, both sides will posture over the Island, but in truth I doubt Spain really want it that much. Its like the Falklands, Argentina pull it out when there are domestic political issues to divert from. A bit of nationalist tubthumping. I suspect we do the same. Except for the theoretical possibility of off shore oil reserves, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that neither the UK or Argentina would regard the Falklands as an economical boon. The Sun seems to be having a dig at Spain on their front cover today, as well as holidays to Spain too.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 17 4.33pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The Sun seems to be having a dig at Spain on their front cover today, as well as holidays to Spain too. I bet they're still collecting in the advertising though for holiday companies that offer holidays to Spain. The truth is no one really is all that interested in what happens to Gibraltar except the people who live there, and it should be their decision. Same as the Falklands, if they wanted to be Argentine, then they'd be f**k all we as a country could really do about it. Except they don't, and invading really only cemented that idea. If Argentina was a massive flourishing rich economy, rather than an intermittently collapsing economic joke with a long history of brutal Junta's, then I suspect they'd be more appealing to the Islanders. Unsurprisingly, not many people want to voluntarily be a 2nd world country (maybe) when they can be a first world country. If the economic and historical situation was reversed, you can be pretty sure which flag would be flying over the Islands.
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| davenotamonkey 05 Apr 17 8.03am |
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Another scaremonger u-turns. Will they be able to claw back the money they (along with other champions of the left, Goldman Sachs) ploughed into the remain campaign?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Apr 17 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
More scaremongering from May. Unrestricted immigration to go on for years. Of course she did not say that. What she said, in effect, was that there might be a period of adjustment - obvious really.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Of course she did not say that. What she said, in effect, was that there might be a period of adjustment - obvious really. Sounds very different than the rhetoric of the leave campaign. Are we taking full control of our borders and immigration from the EU or not?
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