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Teddy Eagle 02 Aug 23 7.04pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
No. If Farage had fallen below the thresholds required ( which for a time he did ) then Coutts could have exited him without a fuss. Although even then, the Relationship Managers should be talking to their clients to ascertain if they intended funding the account to restore it sufficiently. As for monitoring his now funded account, his political views would - in my experience - not require any additional monitoring. You said it yourself, NF hasn't changed, it's Coutts. Obviously, I can't speak for all Coutts clients, but it bothers me not that they have Farage on their books. And much as I used to despise Jeremy Corbyn, that wouldn't have bothered me either. In fact I would find some irony in that. All I want from my bank is to provide the level of service expected and to protect my interests in the most effective way. I don't care if they are environmentally friendly, carbon neutral etc etc. To me that's all Virtue Signalling BS and not a reason for me selecting to have an account with them This makes sense. Banks are continually trying to coax clients from each other with promises of increased interest rates, etc, and anyone who moves their accounts does so without any thought about who the other customers might be.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 02 Aug 23 9.57pm | |
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The accusations in the Coutt's file on NF included he received money from dodgy Russian sources. This is a false accusation made under PP by the slimy Chris Bryant who has never dared repeat it outwith the chamber as he would be immediately slapped with a slander and defamation writ. The impression I have is that the bank had decided to debank NF as soon as his mortgage was paid off ( this is minuted in the docs ) and they put together a witch hunt file to somehow justify their decision. I have now opened a new bank account in the UK, I shall keep just enough in Natwest to make it a loss maker for them. At some point I shall deliberately provoke the bank with a " pronoun " email or similar and see what they do. Interestingly the account opening documents specifically asked if I was a PEP Edited by HKOwen (02 Aug 2023 10.19pm)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 23 10.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Just consider the highlighted sentence again. It totally contradicts itself. Did you forget that Farage obtained an internal report that confirmed that he was targeted because of his opinions and that the CEO told lies to a reporter about his financial status? Are you going to continue to play dumb or just concede now? As you obviously didn’t read the link I provided on the subtle, but vital, difference between cause and reason I will provide it again so there’s at least a chance that you might grasp the point. Of course I know that Farage obtained the report. That’s what started all of this. As I know that the CEO gave a misleading interview. The report did not though confirm that he was targeted because of his political opinions. That’s just the way it has been spun by Farage and the right-wing press to be gobbled up by people like you. What it did was describe those opinions in unfortunate terms, for which an apology was made. That doesn’t mean they were the reason for his debanking, only that they were the cause of it. His views could have been considered controversial for a whole host of other reasons and the result been the same. He is a PEP. The only thing that must be conceded is that you are unlikely to understand this.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 23 10.34pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The bilge that you come out with. What a surprise! Too subtle for you perhaps? Don’t worry you are far from alone in that.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Aug 23 10.46pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
No. If Farage had fallen below the thresholds required ( which for a time he did ) then Coutts could have exited him without a fuss. Although even then, the Relationship Managers should be talking to their clients to ascertain if they intended funding the account to restore it sufficiently. As for monitoring his now funded account, his political views would - in my experience - not require any additional monitoring. You said it yourself, NF hasn't changed, it's Coutts. Obviously, I can't speak for all Coutts clients, but it bothers me not that they have Farage on their books. And much as I used to despise Jeremy Corbyn, that wouldn't have bothered me either. In fact I would find some irony in that. All I want from my bank is to provide the level of service expected and to protect my interests in the most effective way. I don't care if they are environmentally friendly, carbon neutral etc etc. To me that's all Virtue Signalling BS and not a reason for me selecting to have an account with them Surely the cost of monitoring someone as high profile as Farage with significantly controversial and divisive opinions and with rumours of funding from Russia around him, even if unsubstantiated, would be significant and not comparable to an average PEP. Would that not be enough on its own to make a bank want shot of him? What you, I, or anyone else as individuals want from our bank is beside the point. It must be down to the bank itself, via whatever reasoning they decide to use, to determine what’s in their best interests. If they decide to virtue signal that’s their choice. If you decide to close your account as a consequence that’s yours.
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Teddy Eagle 02 Aug 23 10.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Surely the cost of monitoring someone as high profile as Farage with significantly controversial and divisive opinions and with rumours of funding from Russia around him, even if unsubstantiated, would be significant and not comparable to an average PEP. Would that not be enough on its own to make a bank want shot of him? What you, I, or anyone else as individuals want from our bank is beside the point. It must be down to the bank itself, via whatever reasoning they decide to use, to determine what’s in their best interests. If they decide to virtue signal that’s their choice. If you decide to close your account as a consequence that’s yours. Rumours of funding from Russia? How awful.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 02 Aug 23 11.13pm | |
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Key point being the accusations against Farage were 100% false although the irony of the hypocrisy of Coutts ( allegedly ) is something to see
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 12.27am | |
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Rumours, whether true or not, can damage reputations and in turn create a desire to not be associated. If any of those banks knowingly laundered money they must be prosecuted. If they were scammed they need to tighten up. As we all do. We are all at risk from scammers.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 23 12.32am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Key point being the accusations against Farage were 100% false although the irony of the hypocrisy of Coutts ( allegedly ) is something to see I think the accusations remain unproven and not false. That if they existed they would have been buried under a pile of plausible deniability is obvious. So too though was that the Leave campaign was remarkably well funded.
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Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 23 12.55am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Rumours, whether true or not, can damage reputations and in turn create a desire to not be associated. If any of those banks knowingly laundered money they must be prosecuted. If they were scammed they need to tighten up. As we all do. We are all at risk from scammers. They have been.
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cryrst The garden of England 03 Aug 23 5.32am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I think the accusations remain unproven and not false. That if they existed they would have been buried under a pile of plausible deniability is obvious. So too though was that the Leave campaign was remarkably well funded. Oops there it is again !
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georgenorman 03 Aug 23 9.19am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What a surprise! Too subtle for you perhaps? Don’t worry you are far from alone in that. You are about as subtle as Katie Price's breasts.
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