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Cpfc1861 20 Jul 20 7.15pm | |
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The enemy is within our doorstep a police chief maintaining his imaginary far right are more dangerous then jihadis.
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Feb 21 10.06am | |
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Supreme Court has just rejected her appeal to come home. Great news although no doubt her supporters will carry on the fight, boat trip from Calais anyone?
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Matov 26 Feb 21 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Supreme Court has just rejected her appeal to come home. Great news although no doubt her supporters will carry on the fight, boat trip from Calais anyone?
And yes, probably an outlier in terms of the Right but I would urge anybody who thinks I am wrong to genuinely take a step back and think about what the age of majority means. We either have 18 as the age which we assume people to be adults or we do not. This is not about her as an individual but all about her age and the fact that she was a British passport holder and born in the UK.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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DanH SW2 26 Feb 21 11.38am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
And yes, probably an outlier in terms of the Right but I would urge anybody who thinks I am wrong to genuinely take a step back and think about what the age of majority means. We either have 18 as the age which we assume people to be adults or we do not. This is not about her as an individual but all about her age and the fact that she was a British passport holder and born in the UK. Couldn't agree more.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 21 11.41am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
And yes, probably an outlier in terms of the Right but I would urge anybody who thinks I am wrong to genuinely take a step back and think about what the age of majority means. We either have 18 as the age which we assume people to be adults or we do not. This is not about her as an individual but all about her age and the fact that she was a British passport holder and born in the UK. Normally I agree with most of your posts but I cannot agree with you on this. She may have been 15 when she left but was “adult” enough to leave on her sisters passport, travel with 2 others and end up in Syria. I know many 15 year olds who would not have the nouse to do this. She was fully aware what IS were all about and how they were treating hostages before she left. She made it quite clear what she thought of the U.K. and the West. Edited by Spiderman (26 Feb 2021 11.42am)
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chris123 hove actually 26 Feb 21 11.42am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Supreme Court has just rejected her appeal to come home. Great news although no doubt her supporters will carry on the fight, boat trip from Calais anyone? She's our problem in my view.
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Feb 21 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
She's our problem in my view. If she ever comes back she will never work and be a drain on the taxpayer, so no thanks I don't care what happens to her. As for those who say she should face justice it is unlikely that any evidence will be allowed by a court because those methods will not have been obtained by British legal standards.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 26 Feb 21 11.50am | |
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Originally posted by chris123
She's our problem in my view. No more problems please. We've got too many of our own already.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Feb 21 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
She's our problem in my view. Why have military drones?
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Matov 26 Feb 21 12.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Normally I agree with most of your posts but I cannot agree with you on this. She may have been 15 when she left but was “adult” enough to leave on her sisters passport, travel with 2 others and end up in Syria. I know many 15 year olds who would not have the nouse to do this. She was fully aware what IS were all about and how they were treating hostages before she left. She made it quite clear what she thought of the U.K. and the West. Edited by Spiderman (26 Feb 2021 11.42am) I genuinely sympathise and share every single part of your ire with her and struggle to counter any one of your points, all of which I fully understand you holding, beyond the issue that we have 18 as the age of majority. For me, it really is that horribly simple. My view is not one that I am happy with and I express it with teeth gritted but I simply cannot countenance a state system being able to withdraw citizenship from somebody born in this country based on decisions they made under the age of majority.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Feb 21 12.39pm | |
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The British legal systems highest court denying the right to a fair hearing. Public safety don't be ridiculous and she is more British than some of the people judging her. Including Ms. Patel.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Feb 21 12.43pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The British legal systems highest court denying the right to a fair hearing. Public safety don't be ridiculous and she is more British than some of the people judging her. Including Ms. Patel.
But can anyone guarantee she would not be a danger to public safety? Once back, the Lily Allen’s of this world would treat her as some sort of hero and criticise the Govt/ Security Services for monitoring her every move.
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