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A1969Eagle Redhill 19 Jun 19 10.29am
Apologize I have not read back through this thread. AWB, my personal opinion for him, is that hes not ready, he needs further development. The BBC stated from last night "And it was then a cruel end for England and Wan-Bissaka, who looked shaky throughout, as he miscued a clearance from a corner into his own net in the fifth minute of added time." I hope for him if he stays or goes, he given chance to develop but if he goes to Manure Utd I doubt it. Many people thinks hes already ready for the English 1st team.. na.... He has a lot to develop and hes done well (and under credited) helped positionally by experienced palace squad, he didnt have that last night!! Lets see how he gets on with a second full season under his belt// Maybe why Palace management will see him as "stock" is high, sell. So many players have "dipped" in second "full" seasons..Bring it on in a Palace shirt and show us you are better than going to Manure!!
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Redhill 19 Jun 19 10.29am

Apologize I have not read back through this thread.
AWB, my personal opinion for him, is that hes not ready, he needs further development.
The BBC stated from last night "And it was then a cruel end for England and Wan-Bissaka, who looked shaky throughout, as he miscued a clearance from a corner into his own net in the fifth minute of added time."

I hope for him if he stays or goes, he given chance to develop but if he goes to Manure Utd I doubt it.
Many people thinks hes already ready for the English 1st team.. na....
He has a lot to develop and hes done well (and under credited) helped positionally by experienced palace squad, he didnt have that last night!!
Lets see how he gets on with a second full season under his belt// Maybe why Palace management will see him as "stock" is high, sell. So many players have "dipped" in second "full" seasons..Bring it on in a Palace shirt and show us you are better than going to Manure!!

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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 19 10.43am
Originally posted by Palace in the Blood I agree with Sterling We need to do something about our financial position. We have a number of players on mega salaries which if we are honest for a club our size / income needs to be addressed. We have a few players who would be saleable for a reasonable price. We also owe money on some of our more expensive purchases. There is also the rumours about the sale of the club to foreign investors. This if they are the right investors may be the way forward if they invest in team and infrastructure and underwrite the debt. So how do we lower wage bill? Firstly by terminating contacts such as Mutch , Puncheon etc. Secondly by offering less generous terms to fringe players on contract renewal possibly Souare and Wickham and I think has been happening as contracts come to an end. Sell some of our high earners, selling Zaha Sakho or Benteke? Firstly we need a buyer who will pay the fee and the wages. They will all have to be replaced too. I don't think there will be any takers for Zaha as his value to us as a club exceeds the benefits of sale. Sakho is a real possibility for sale and we are rumored to be looking at younger players. Benteke his lack of goals and loss of confidence mean finding a buyer is difficult. Aston Villa possibly? I think he will stay but we need to play to his strengths and Wilf and Andros need to be told to cross to his head. Selling AWB will bring income but not reduce the wage bill as he is not on high wages and a replacement will probably earn more. I think that Man U will come in again and we will accept a figure of about £40 million up front, realistic extras such as a sellon clause of 20% ,call up for England, United to be in Champions League, win premiership, cups etc, plus the waiving of the Wilf sales clause. It really depends on how much United want him. As I said earlier the potential purchase of club will be a huge factor as buyers will value club with AWB as an asset and may prefer to keep AWB and finance new purchases or offer less for club with him gone While you might not be up to date on some players still being here but I think you talk a lot of sense. Perhaps if we gave Man U first refusal on Zaha that would also help with the waiving of the sales clause. Parish and co and all the rest of us know that the players we bring in will decide whether the club progresses or declines and get relegated......We know that Bissaka and Zaha are not long for this club.....We aren't big enough to keep them. It's all about the money. Unless the club expands its attendance significantly we never have that chance of breaking through. Leeds are coming up and their stadium capacity at Elland Road is 37,890, which is even larger than our capacity after this long delayed stand expansion. Palace need another 'golden period' of luck and success as we had in the Championship when we got promoted despite only having a mid range wage bill.......But crossing your fingers is no way to successfully run a business. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 10.43am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jun 19 10.43am

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

I agree with Sterling We need to do something about our financial position.

We have a number of players on mega salaries which if we are honest for a club our size / income needs to be addressed.

We have a few players who would be saleable for a reasonable price.

We also owe money on some of our more expensive purchases.

There is also the rumours about the sale of the club to foreign investors. This if they are the right investors may be the way forward if they invest in team and infrastructure and underwrite the debt.

So how do we lower wage bill? Firstly by terminating contacts such as Mutch , Puncheon etc. Secondly by offering less generous terms to fringe players on contract renewal possibly Souare and Wickham and I think has been happening as contracts come to an end. Sell some of our high earners, selling Zaha Sakho or Benteke? Firstly we need a buyer who will pay the fee and the wages. They will all have to be replaced too. I don't think there will be any takers for Zaha as his value to us as a club exceeds the benefits of sale. Sakho is a real possibility for sale and we are rumored to be looking at younger players. Benteke his lack of goals and loss of confidence mean finding a buyer is difficult. Aston Villa possibly? I think he will stay but we need to play to his strengths and Wilf and Andros need to be told to cross to his head.

Selling AWB will bring income but not reduce the wage bill as he is not on high wages and a replacement will probably earn more. I think that Man U will come in again and we will accept a figure of about £40 million up front, realistic extras such as a sellon clause of 20% ,call up for England, United to be in Champions League, win premiership, cups etc, plus the waiving of the Wilf sales clause. It really depends on how much United want him.

As I said earlier the potential purchase of club will be a huge factor as buyers will value club with AWB as an asset and may prefer to keep AWB and finance new purchases or offer less for club with him gone

While you might not be up to date on some players still being here but I think you talk a lot of sense.

Perhaps if we gave Man U first refusal on Zaha that would also help with the waiving of the sales clause.

Parish and co and all the rest of us know that the players we bring in will decide whether the club progresses or declines and get relegated......We know that Bissaka and Zaha are not long for this club.....We aren't big enough to keep them.

It's all about the money.

Unless the club expands its attendance significantly we never have that chance of breaking through.

Leeds are coming up and their stadium capacity at Elland Road is 37,890, which is even larger than our capacity after this long delayed stand expansion.

Palace need another 'golden period' of luck and success as we had in the Championship when we got promoted despite only having a mid range wage bill.......But crossing your fingers is no way to successfully run a business.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 10.43am)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jun 19 10.43am
Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool? Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs. COYP
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Caterham 19 Jun 19 10.43am

Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool?

Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs.

COYP

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black eagle. south croydon. 19 Jun 19 10.47am
Looks as if Utd are now arfter the Norwich right back which is good news for us. Like many have said AWB needs another season with us to develop.
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south croydon. 19 Jun 19 10.47am

Looks as if Utd are now arfter the Norwich right back which is good news for us.

Like many have said AWB needs another season with us to develop.

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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 19 10.49am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool? Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs. He broke through into the French squad last year, I think big clubs like Paris Saint-Germain would be interested in him.....he's still under 30. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jun 19 10.49am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool?

Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs.

He broke through into the French squad last year, I think big clubs like Paris Saint-Germain would be interested in him.....he's still under 30.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jun 19 11.03am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays He broke through into the French squad last year, I think big clubs like Paris Saint-Germain would be interested in him.....he's still under 30. You’re limiting him to about one or two clubs, and them not finding anyone better in the whole of Europe. He’s good to us but he’s really not that good higher up the pyramid, especially with their wealth. He’s a clanger waiting to happen and Klopp was right to get rid. The likes of Virgil Van Dyke and the Spurs CB’s are the futures. You’re probably looking at PSG only. Slim chance we can’t plan to happen then. COYP
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Caterham 19 Jun 19 11.03am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He broke through into the French squad last year, I think big clubs like Paris Saint-Germain would be interested in him.....he's still under 30.

You’re limiting him to about one or two clubs, and them not finding anyone better in the whole of Europe. He’s good to us but he’s really not that good higher up the pyramid, especially with their wealth. He’s a clanger waiting to happen and Klopp was right to get rid. The likes of Virgil Van Dyke and the Spurs CB’s are the futures.

You’re probably looking at PSG only. Slim chance we can’t plan to happen then.

COYP

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gerry theagle newbury 19 Jun 19 11.15am
Morning Stirling,Leeds are not coming up thank goodness.
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newbury 19 Jun 19 11.15am

Morning Stirling,Leeds are not coming up thank goodness.

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taylors lovechild 19 Jun 19 11.16am
Even the best defenders have bad games and this in no way changes my opinion of him. I hope this whole drama doesn't knock AWB's confidence as he seems like a great lad and doesn't deserve to face idiotic comments from the likes of Gabbidon (who was half the player AWB is). I think if possible the club needs to give a figure and a deadline and tell any suitors if they want him pay that by this date or the shop's closed. Personally I really hope we get to see him continue his development at Palace next season. F**k Man U.
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Even the best defenders have bad games and this in no way changes my opinion of him. I hope this whole drama doesn't knock AWB's confidence as he seems like a great lad and doesn't deserve to face idiotic comments from the likes of Gabbidon (who was half the player AWB is). I think if possible the club needs to give a figure and a deadline and tell any suitors if they want him pay that by this date or the shop's closed. Personally I really hope we get to see him continue his development at Palace next season. F**k Man U.

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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 19 11.27am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman You’re limiting him to about one or two clubs, and them not finding anyone better in the whole of Europe. He’s good to us but he’s really not that good higher up the pyramid, especially with their wealth. He’s a clanger waiting to happen and Klopp was right to get rid. The likes of Virgil Van Dyke and the Spurs CB’s are the futures. You’re probably looking at PSG only. Slim chance we can’t plan to happen then. Perhaps....Sakho is quality for a club like so... so him not going isn't a disaster however I suppose I'm looking at that wage bill. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 11.29am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jun 19 11.27am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You’re probably looking at PSG only. Slim chance we can’t plan to happen then.

Perhaps....Sakho is quality for a club like so... so him not going isn't a disaster however I suppose I'm looking at that wage bill.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 11.29am)

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Stirlingsays 19 Jun 19 11.29am
Originally posted by gerry theagle Morning Stirling,Leeds are not coming up thank goodness. Tips hat. Another Stirling clanger. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Jun 19 11.29am

Originally posted by gerry theagle

Morning Stirling,Leeds are not coming up thank goodness.

Tips hat.

Another Stirling clanger.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jun 19 11.34am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Perhaps....Sakho is quality for a club like so... so him not going isn't a disaster however I suppose I'm looking at that wage bill. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 11.29am) Sakho was a big part of us staying up last season. We need him and we need quality generally. The PL is too good now to just get away with it using average players. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jun 2019 11.34am)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps....Sakho is quality for a club like so... so him not going isn't a disaster however I suppose I'm looking at that wage bill.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2019 11.29am)

Sakho was a big part of us staying up last season.

We need him and we need quality generally. The PL is too good now to just get away with it using average players.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jun 2019 11.34am)

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 19 Jun 19 11.43am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool? Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs. No chance Sakho is on £130k. That’s more likely what wilf is on. PSG, Marseille or Monaco. He’s been linked to all 3. He’s said himself he’s be happy to go back to France although is equally happy in London. It’s would be up to Sakho what personal terms he would accept if he was to move. However don’t see him going anywhere other than France.
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Cambridge 19 Jun 19 11.43am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Who do people expect will buy Sakho on £130k wages after being sold more than halfway down the league by Liverpool?

Please provide some possible suitors because I struggle to think of any. It’s expensive for European clubs.

No chance Sakho is on £130k. That’s more likely what wilf is on.

PSG, Marseille or Monaco. He’s been linked to all 3. He’s said himself he’s be happy to go back to France although is equally happy in London. It’s would be up to Sakho what personal terms he would accept if he was to move. However don’t see him going anywhere other than France.

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