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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 24 Mar 03 4.46pm
Quote Bacon at 24 Mar 2003 4:28pm Quote halfmanhalfslug at 24 Mar 2003 3:26pm Apparently the Desert Rats are withdrawing from Basra after meeting heavy resistance. See? A quick easy war, minimum casualties. My arse. you almost seem happy about this.... Not sure how you got that idea, not even a smiley face in there. I am happy to the extent that it removes British soldiers from a harmful position, though. face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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Girls just wanna have Funt 24 Mar 03 4.46pm

Quote Bacon at 24 Mar 2003 4:28pm

Quote halfmanhalfslug at 24 Mar 2003 3:26pm

Apparently the Desert Rats are withdrawing from Basra after meeting heavy resistance.

See? A quick easy war, minimum casualties. My arse.

you almost seem happy about this....

Not sure how you got that idea, not even a smiley face in there. I am happy to the extent that it removes British soldiers from a harmful position, though.

face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005
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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 24 Mar 03 4.48pm
Quote OknotOK at 24 Mar 2003 4:39pm This is quite helpful [Link] Indicates that tensions might be growing between the States and Russia though! I assume you're referring to Quote The United States has "credible evidence that Russian companies have provided assistance and prohibited hardware to the Iraqi regime," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer says. ... I shouldn't worry mate, the Yanks (and Brits) sold just as much to them, so we'd hardly shout too much about it. Unless we're really stupid, Ari! face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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Girls just wanna have Funt 24 Mar 03 4.48pm

Quote OknotOK at 24 Mar 2003 4:39pm

This is quite helpful

[Link]

Indicates that tensions might be growing between the States and Russia though!

I assume you're referring to

Quote The United States has "credible evidence that Russian companies have provided assistance and prohibited hardware to the Iraqi regime," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer says.

... I shouldn't worry mate, the Yanks (and Brits) sold just as much to them, so we'd hardly shout too much about it. Unless we're really stupid, Ari!

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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 24 Mar 03 4.57pm
Yeah I know! But most Americans don't! And they aren't willing to admit it either. Plus they are looking for reasons to discredit the Security Council members who were not willing to vote in favour of them But starting to bandy around "evidence" that Russia has been arming Iraq is only gonna cause trouble! "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Cockfosters, London 24 Mar 03 4.57pm

Yeah I know! But most Americans don't!

And they aren't willing to admit it either. Plus they are looking for reasons to discredit the Security Council members who were not willing to vote in favour of them

But starting to bandy around "evidence" that Russia has been arming Iraq is only gonna cause trouble!

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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matt_the_eagle Tulse Thrill 24 Mar 03 5.34pm
Quote Eddie_Hitler at 24 Mar 2003 2:48pm Lets be honest here Bexter. Who else can we blame for them driving off like that?? Who ordered them to do it?? They knew the risks of doing such a thing, and unfortunatly suffered the consequences of taking such a risk. This is a war zone for f*** sake, not a paintballing session. I know it's easy to blame the Americans for just about all the british fatalities so far, but on this occasion he took his job too far. In fairness, paintballing really hurts. I think Keith Murray said it best when he rapped "If you aint fly you cant play with my yo-yo". I'm sure you'll agree.
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Quote Eddie_Hitler at 24 Mar 2003 2:48pm

Lets be honest here Bexter. Who else can we blame for them driving off like that?? Who ordered them to do it?? They knew the risks of doing such a thing, and unfortunatly suffered the consequences of taking such a risk. This is a war zone for f*** sake, not a paintballing session. I know it's easy to blame the Americans for just about all the british fatalities so far, but on this occasion he took his job too far.

In fairness, paintballing really hurts.

I think Keith Murray said it best when he rapped
"If you aint fly you cant play with my yo-yo".

I'm sure you'll agree.

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bruceisjudas 24 Mar 03 9.26pm
Quote matt_the_eagle at 24 Mar 2003 5:34pm Quote Eddie_Hitler at 24 Mar 2003 2:48pm Lets be honest here Bexter. Who else can we blame for them driving off like that?? Who ordered them to do it?? They knew the risks of doing such a thing, and unfortunatly suffered the consequences of taking such a risk. This is a war zone for f*** sake, not a paintballing session. I know it's easy to blame the Americans for just about all the british fatalities so far, but on this occasion he took his job too far. In fairness, paintballing really hurts. Indeed, especially when they take a dodgy bounce and end up hitting under your mask :P
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bruceisjudas

24 Mar 03 9.26pm

Quote matt_the_eagle at 24 Mar 2003 5:34pm

Quote Eddie_Hitler at 24 Mar 2003 2:48pm

In fairness, paintballing really hurts.

Indeed, especially when they take a dodgy bounce and end up hitting under your mask :P

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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 11.13am
Apparently we are today claiming (again) to have secured Umm Qasr, the deep-water port near the Kuwaiti border. Let's see if they got it right this time, I hope so. Basra has been recategorised as a military target, which is a worry considering the British losses there already. Presumably now there's no chance we will pass it by, but will get bogged down in street fighting from now on. This war just keeps getting grimmer, and keeps looking like a bigger and bigger mistake. face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 11.13am

Apparently we are today claiming (again) to have secured Umm Qasr, the deep-water port near the Kuwaiti border. Let's see if they got it right this time, I hope so.

Basra has been recategorised as a military target, which is a worry considering the British losses there already. Presumably now there's no chance we will pass it by, but will get bogged down in street fighting from now on.

This war just keeps getting grimmer, and keeps looking like a bigger and bigger mistake.

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gambler Kent 25 Mar 03 11.36am
Quote halfmanhalfslug at 25 Mar 2003 11:13am This war just keeps getting grimmer, and keeps looking like a bigger and bigger mistake. Yeah, a couple of days ago the "allies" would have had us believe that they would be in Baghdad by now. It's all going tits up, but i can't see neither Bush nor Blair backing down even one inch. I really think that Blair wishes he could turn back the clock. He's shafted us all basically.
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Kent 25 Mar 03 11.36am

Quote halfmanhalfslug at 25 Mar 2003 11:13am

This war just keeps getting grimmer, and keeps looking like a bigger and bigger mistake.

Yeah, a couple of days ago the "allies" would have had us believe that they would be in Baghdad by now. It's all going tits up, but i can't see neither Bush nor Blair backing down even one inch. I really think that Blair wishes he could turn back the clock. He's shafted us all basically.

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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 11.40am
At the risk of being labelled as smug (Heaven forfend!) I should point out that many (ie MILLIONS) of us have been pointing this out from well before this stupid war started. How anyone could seriously kid themselves into thinking that this would be a walkover, that casualties would be minimal, and (most laughably) that we'd be welcomed as liberators, I have no idea. We haven't even begun to see the worst of this war yet... only now are we reaching the centre of Iraq, we have Baghdad, Tikrit and Mosul to come yet... and we haven't even taken Basra yet. face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 11.40am

At the risk of being labelled as smug (Heaven forfend!) I should point out that many (ie MILLIONS) of us have been pointing this out from well before this stupid war started.

How anyone could seriously kid themselves into thinking that this would be a walkover, that casualties would be minimal, and (most laughably) that we'd be welcomed as liberators, I have no idea.

We haven't even begun to see the worst of this war yet... only now are we reaching the centre of Iraq, we have Baghdad, Tikrit and Mosul to come yet... and we haven't even taken Basra yet.

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Bexter By the Sea 25 Mar 03 11.53am
and at the risk of sounding unpatriotic at a time like this - i wish i was bloody french right now!
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By the Sea 25 Mar 03 11.53am

and at the risk of sounding unpatriotic at a time like this - i wish i was bloody french right now!

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gambler Kent 25 Mar 03 11.54am
But Tony knows best. He was the smuggest b****** of them all before it started, telling us all to trust him, he's seen the evidence, etc, etc. He's probably already working on distancing himself from the whole thing. Eventually, the history books will no doubt say that he was against us getting involved in the first place.
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Kent 25 Mar 03 11.54am

But Tony knows best.

He was the smuggest b****** of them all before it started, telling us all to trust him, he's seen the evidence, etc, etc.

He's probably already working on distancing himself from the whole thing. Eventually, the history books will no doubt say that he was against us getting involved in the first place.

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Bexter By the Sea 25 Mar 03 12.16pm
bet he's gutted that they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction. i'd love to know what's going on in his head right now - geez, what a mess.
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By the Sea 25 Mar 03 12.16pm

bet he's gutted that they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction. i'd love to know what's going on in his head right now - geez, what a mess.

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eulalio Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 12.25pm
Here's the latest from Iraq from the Channel 4 Newsroom. Battle for Baghdad: =================== In Central Iraq, the advance towards the capital by coalition troops has intensified. As explosions are heard in Baghdad, American and British troops are now massing some 60 miles outside the capital city. They are fast approaching the so called 'Red Zone' - the first Iraqi line of defence of their capital city. And further south - U.S. Marines have crossed the Euphrates canal at Nassiriya opening up a supply route. Sandstorms hit Najaf where the Iraqi's CLAIM to have inflicted heavy losses on coalition forces. And in Kerbala where two US pilots have already been taken prisoner US Apache helicopters have had to withdraw. Southern situation: =================== Its the situation in the South, this lunchtime, which poses the immediate problem for coalition troops. And a reminder today of the British cost. The Ministry of Defence has named the soldier who died yesterday during rioting near Basra. He was Sergeant Steven Mark Roberts, of the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment. In Basra, Iraqi tanks have left the city to meet the fire of coalition forces. The city is now an official military target. There's a humanitarian crisis with no water or electricity supplies since Friday. The British commander at Umm Qasr says the port town is now 'safe and open'. He promised the first ship of humanitarian aid within 2 days. Also today comes news of the second UK Combat death near Zubayr. The un-named soldier was from the first Battalion The Black Watch. In the North: ============= Elsewhere, coalition attacks on Iraqi positions in the North appeared to be intensifying. Overnight, fighter jets blasted Iraqi positions near the cities of Mosul and Kirkuk. And French television showed pictures of what it claimed were US special forces operating in the Kurdish-controlled area of Northern Iraq. face up to your share of the blame you filthy terrorist sympathiser - Petealiator 8/7/2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intolerance of ambiguity is the mark of an authoritarian personality - Theodor Adorno
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Girls just wanna have Funt 25 Mar 03 12.25pm

Here's the latest from Iraq from the Channel 4 Newsroom.

Battle for Baghdad:
===================
In Central Iraq, the advance towards the capital by coalition troops has intensified. As explosions are heard in Baghdad, American and British troops are now massing some 60 miles outside the capital city. They are fast approaching the so called 'Red Zone' - the first Iraqi line of defence of their capital city. And further south - U.S. Marines have crossed the Euphrates canal at Nassiriya opening up a supply route. Sandstorms hit Najaf where the Iraqi's CLAIM to have inflicted heavy losses on coalition forces. And in Kerbala where two US pilots have already been taken prisoner US Apache helicopters have had to withdraw.

Southern situation:
===================
Its the situation in the South, this lunchtime, which poses the immediate problem for coalition troops. And a reminder today of the British cost. The Ministry of Defence has named the soldier who died yesterday during rioting near Basra. He was Sergeant Steven Mark Roberts, of the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment. In Basra, Iraqi tanks have left the city to meet the fire of coalition forces. The city is now an official military target. There's a humanitarian crisis with no water or electricity supplies since Friday. The British commander at Umm Qasr says the port town is now 'safe and open'. He promised the first ship of humanitarian aid within 2 days. Also today comes news of the second UK Combat death near Zubayr. The un-named soldier was from the first Battalion The Black Watch.

In the North:
=============
Elsewhere, coalition attacks on Iraqi positions in the North appeared to be intensifying. Overnight, fighter jets blasted Iraqi positions near the cities of Mosul and Kirkuk. And French television showed pictures of what it claimed were US special forces operating in the Kurdish-controlled area of Northern Iraq.

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