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JohnSmithsSmooth Beckenham 17 Dec 02 12.10am | |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 16 Dec 2002 10:23pm
Selhurst Stallion is spot on here. The Sun added extra cr@p such as Combat 18 to make Simmons sound worse than what he was, also bringing out a story of him holding up a garage with a spanner from years beforehand. Then the following week after giving him a few quid, carried his full exclusive story of the Cantona incident. Goes to show how twisted newspapers are and how they continually stir things up. The public love it though, that's why millions of copies are sold each day. Edited by Penge Eagle (16 Dec 2002 10:24pm)
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JohnSmithsSmooth Beckenham 17 Dec 02 12.11am | |
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And as a footnote, Matthew S, was definately not a member of C18..
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Dec 02 12.13am | |
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Quote JohnSmithsSmooth at 17 Dec 2002 12:10am
Quote Penge Eagle at 16 Dec 2002 10:23pm
Selhurst Stallion is spot on here. The Sun added extra cr@p such as Combat 18 to make Simmons sound worse than what he was, also bringing out a story of him holding up a garage with a spanner from years beforehand. Then the following week after giving him a few quid, carried his full exclusive story of the Cantona incident. Goes to show how twisted newspapers are and how they continually stir things up. The public love it though, that's why millions of copies are sold each day. Edited by Penge Eagle (16 Dec 2002 10:24pm)
Except for Millwall of course
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JohnSmithsSmooth Beckenham 17 Dec 02 12.30am | |
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git
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JayT Sydney 25 Mar 05 8.57am | |
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I just discovered this thread and I thought it might be nice to resurrect it a few years on. I think the original issue, that white racial remarks aren't really related to racism compared to different coloured racial intollerence, has actually blurred the definition of racism even further over the past few years. Political correctness is the blame for this. If a black person turns around and said to me "you white w***er", I would be expected to take it in my stride and accept it. But if I retorted with "you black b******", then it's likely that the race card would be played. In the end it's what people actually perceive that makes the difference. The police have to be looking to do something about 'racism' as they themselves are often criticised for being 'racist' as they stop and search more black people than white people. Bit of a story to chuck in now: Anyway, that night when we were all asleep, someone decided it would be fun to set a fire on the doorstep next door (we know it was that conniving c*** next door). So what happened? Well late that afternoon we got a knock on the door from the police. Both myself and my mum were arrested on suspicion of racially aggrevated arson. He'd told the police what my mum said the day before, and what I apparently shouted to him - So we were locked up in an interview room from 3 til midnight being interrogated. And it was an interrogation - not an interview. The police were outrightly accusing us of making racial comments and being racist, always returning to the question of what were we doing between midnight and 4AM of the morning of the fire. So anyway, we were bailed for 3 months and finally received a caution for being racist. We were warned that if we made any racial comments within 3 years then the police would have to prosecute and it was likely we'd be given a custodial sentence. The point is that we both stated what he called my mum and he didn't receive any warning, caution or anything. Racism is perceived to be based upon skin colour and nothing else. Those of a non caucasion colour appear to have more rights over white people in terms of racial comments. There is also a history of racial tollerence/intollerence. In my Grandparents young years there were very few people of foreign origin living in this country. When they did start moving over here they didn't treat them as a normal, white person as they were completely different. They were something new. Their perspective hardly changed until the day they died. It's how they were brought up and what they knew. People can't just change their opinions to suit society. If 'racism' cannot be treated on an equal basis, without preference and with bias, then surely it should not be a crime. Double standards and politically correctness have gone completely wrong. "Bar, bar black sheep" has apparently been banned in Primary schools - I don't know whether there is any substance in this but I believe it! The whole idea of comments being racial come across as stupid to me. It may offend someone, but it is no different to calling another person fat or another stupid. Racial hate is a different matter. If people throw bricks through windows and spray paint comments across houses, then that's a different matter. Something should be done as it is actually putting lives at risk. It's really a never ending debate, but I believe the law needs to be changed to resolve it.
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saxoneagle Bromley 19 Apr 05 12.59am | |
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I have a friend here from the Isle of Man, a country pretty devoid of any minorities. He told me this story about a LIVE radio broadcast in which the DJ said that you were no longer allowed to call them blacks, just ethnics. Him and his co-DJ went on to have the following conversation: "I've just been on holiday" The DJ got completely ripped apart for this but in many ways I think it is representative of a PC-world gone completely bonkers.
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A_JsShorts 19 Apr 05 1.16am | |
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Haha that is sooo funny and I don't believe a word of it!! I think your mates having a laugh, you are on a wind up or the DJ's were!! I have the ace of ethnics lol!!!!!!!! We are all ethnic but in a majority us white people don't see ourselves as that!! Anyways the correct term used certainly in my line of work for the government is BME meaning Black and minority ethnic [groups]
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Farawayeagle Sydney 19 Apr 05 1.30am | |
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I wonder if we'll beat Ethnicburn on Wednesday?
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A_JsShorts 19 Apr 05 1.32am | |
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Quote Farawayeagle at 19 Apr 2005 1:30am
I wonder if we'll beat Ethnicburn on Wednesday? Doh, why didnt I think of that - its middle of the night here your on form Faraway
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OzzieBob Kicking Racism out of Football 19 Apr 05 4.36am | |
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I think their is a difference between being racist and being cliquie if such a word exists. In England you can move to a village somewhere and it takes the locals years to accept you. They say things like, You're not from around here are you, this is a local shop for local people. We don't like you townies coming around here dropping you litter. That's why I hate the country bumpkins. That doesn't make either of us racist, just cliquie. There is a love hate relationship between the English and Welsh. Whenever I watch Zulu it never fails to amaze me how an Englishman and a Scotsman can get a bunch of Welsh gits to kill all those African Zulu's, Makes you proud to be British, sort of.
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Danger Playa del Merstham 19 Apr 05 8.17am | |
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The goalscorer for Crystal Palace, number 16, Tommy Ethnic. TOMMY.........
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saxoneagle Bromley 19 Apr 05 12.24pm | |
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Quote Danger at 19 Apr 2005 8:17am
The goalscorer for Crystal Palace, number 16, Tommy Ethnic. TOMMY.........
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