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silvertop Portishead 22 Jul 24 10.24am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio If the Democrats want Harris to win , she must be seen as presidential. Hence they must get rid of Biden now. Give her a few months to look important in the big chair. Anyway, the US President is only slightly more involved than the UK monarch. A titular job. Eating cake, opening new tourist visitor centres , smiling for the cameras. Even a Millwall fan could do it. Only if the job extends to throwing faeces and climbing trees. Edited by silvertop (22 Jul 2024 10.24am)
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Portishead 22 Jul 24 10.24am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

If the Democrats want Harris to win , she must be seen as presidential.
Hence they must get rid of Biden now. Give her a few months to look important in the big chair.

Anyway, the US President is only slightly more involved than the UK monarch. A titular job. Eating cake, opening new tourist visitor centres , smiling for the cameras. Even a Millwall fan could do it.

Only if the job extends to throwing faeces and climbing trees.

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MFW94 Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.26am
Originally posted by silvertop 1st gloss Harris doesn't stand a hope. She has come in with plenty of failure baggage and a nickname of "Kakling Kamala" due to her nervous laughter at all the wrong moments. She is female and minority which will get the backs up of a lot of Americans who instinctively turn against Woke. However, she has a decent chance of garnering a great deal of the US electorate who just happen to be minority or female or indeed young. That is a lot of numbers if they bother to turn up. And don't forget those who turn up every 4 years and vote Democrat whoever it is. That is also a whole big number. However, her greatest trump card (ho ho) is her rival. She is not him. He is the living breathing definition of marmite where nobody thinks he is OK or doesn't mind him that much. It is love or hate. And the latter may not have bothered to turn up if the only alternative was Biden. And she is young. If he wins, Trump will be as old as Biden when he comes to the end of his term. Do US voters really want a repeat of all that? Again, another post I agree with. I also find it odd Trump is even running when he can only do one term anyways (the phrase lame duck president widely used for someone in their second term) I fear Trump's son will end up running in 2028 to carry on the mad house dynasty though.
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Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.26am

Originally posted by silvertop

1st gloss Harris doesn't stand a hope.

She has come in with plenty of failure baggage and a nickname of "Kakling Kamala" due to her nervous laughter at all the wrong moments.

She is female and minority which will get the backs up of a lot of Americans who instinctively turn against Woke.

However, she has a decent chance of garnering a great deal of the US electorate who just happen to be minority or female or indeed young. That is a lot of numbers if they bother to turn up.

And don't forget those who turn up every 4 years and vote Democrat whoever it is. That is also a whole big number.

However, her greatest trump card (ho ho) is her rival. She is not him. He is the living breathing definition of marmite where nobody thinks he is OK or doesn't mind him that much. It is love or hate. And the latter may not have bothered to turn up if the only alternative was Biden.

And she is young. If he wins, Trump will be as old as Biden when he comes to the end of his term. Do US voters really want a repeat of all that?

Again, another post I agree with.

I also find it odd Trump is even running when he can only do one term anyways (the phrase lame duck president widely used for someone in their second term)

I fear Trump's son will end up running in 2028 to carry on the mad house dynasty though.

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 24 10.34am
Originally posted by MFW94 And posts like these are the reasons I havent posted about politics. I have actually have an A Level in US politics so have always had an interest in this. I dont think its about stooping low, the election is in 4 months and they need to confirm a choice, and she just so happens to be the VP who the President and the Clintons and many other top democrats have endorsed (except Obama, which is telling). She also happens to be African American and a Women - which you have kindly pointed out will be an a big thing Trump and his cult will push when it comes to race issues and the female votes (which by the way, since Roe v Wade was essentially reversed, women will more likely vote for another women whether people agree with it or not) She may not be the best choice, but she is probably the most realistic given the time frames involved, and the fact Trump's campaign is full steam ahead. Bidens Campaign would transfer to Harris. USA are still living in the Dark Ages when it comes the 3 main talking points that always get brought up around election time - Guns, Abortion and Healthcare. Standards have clearly dropped. Seriously, I welcome you to the politics section. Don't expect an easy ride.
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Originally posted by MFW94

And posts like these are the reasons I havent posted about politics.

I have actually have an A Level in US politics so have always had an interest in this.

I dont think its about stooping low, the election is in 4 months and they need to confirm a choice, and she just so happens to be the VP who the President and the Clintons and many other top democrats have endorsed (except Obama, which is telling). She also happens to be African American and a Women - which you have kindly pointed out will be an a big thing Trump and his cult will push when it comes to race issues and the female votes (which by the way, since Roe v Wade was essentially reversed, women will more likely vote for another women whether people agree with it or not)

She may not be the best choice, but she is probably the most realistic given the time frames involved, and the fact Trump's campaign is full steam ahead. Bidens Campaign would transfer to Harris.

USA are still living in the Dark Ages when it comes the 3 main talking points that always get brought up around election time - Guns, Abortion and Healthcare.

Standards have clearly dropped.

Seriously, I welcome you to the politics section.

Don't expect an easy ride.

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MFW94 Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.39am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Standards have clearly dropped. Seriously, I welcome you to the politics section. Don't expect an easy ride. I mean ill take that as a compliment - It isnt anything to shout about but I do have an understanding of how the US Political system works. I have also travelled to America enough times and have American friends (Some Republican & some democrat). Not saying I am remotely qualified but I like to read enough books, articles, etc both on the right, centre & left and form an opinion based on Facts. Clearly not everyone will always agree with what I think. Edited by MFW94 (22 Jul 2024 10.41am)
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Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.39am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Standards have clearly dropped.

Seriously, I welcome you to the politics section.

Don't expect an easy ride.

I mean ill take that as a compliment - It isnt anything to shout about but I do have an understanding of how the US Political system works. I have also travelled to America enough times and have American friends (Some Republican & some democrat). Not saying I am remotely qualified but I like to read enough books, articles, etc both on the right, centre & left and form an opinion based on Facts. Clearly not everyone will always agree with what I think.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 22 Jul 24 10.41am
Originally posted by MFW94 And posts like these are the reasons I havent posted about politics. I have actually have an A Level in US politics so have always had an interest in this. I dont think its about stooping low, the election is in 4 months and they need to confirm a choice, and she just so happens to be the VP who the President and the Clintons and many other top democrats have endorsed (except Obama, which is telling). She also happens to be African American and a Women - which you have kindly pointed out will be an a big thing Trump and his cult will push when it comes to race issues and the female votes (which by the way, since Roe v Wade was essentially reversed, women will more likely vote for another women whether people agree with it or not) She may not be the best choice, but she is probably the most realistic given the time frames involved, and the fact Trump's campaign is full steam ahead. Bidens Campaign would transfer to Harris. USA are still living in the Dark Ages when it comes the 3 main talking points that always get brought up around election time - Guns, Abortion and Healthcare. This is such a WE type comment. We need more young ideas on here, most of us are overly qualified in the life experience department to be idealistic apart from some loony lefties and the odd jew hater. Harris is not African-American btw, she is half Jamaican-African and half Indian, she had a privileged upbringing , no mean streets for her. She basically shagged her way up the Californian democratic pole, no pun intended. Edited by HKOwen (22 Jul 2024 10.42am) Edited by HKOwen (22 Jul 2024 10.44am) Edited by HKOwen (22 Jul 2024 10.52am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 22 Jul 24 10.41am

Originally posted by MFW94

And posts like these are the reasons I havent posted about politics.

I have actually have an A Level in US politics so have always had an interest in this.

She may not be the best choice, but she is probably the most realistic given the time frames involved, and the fact Trump's campaign is full steam ahead. Bidens Campaign would transfer to Harris.

USA are still living in the Dark Ages when it comes the 3 main talking points that always get brought up around election time - Guns, Abortion and Healthcare.

This is such a WE type comment.

We need more young ideas on here, most of us are overly qualified in the life experience department to be idealistic apart from some loony lefties and the odd jew hater.

Harris is not African-American btw, she is half Jamaican-African and half Indian, she had a privileged upbringing , no mean streets for her. She basically shagged her way up the Californian democratic pole, no pun intended.

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Edited by HKOwen (22 Jul 2024 10.52am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 22 Jul 24 10.43am
Originally posted by silvertop 1st gloss Harris doesn't stand a hope. She has come in with plenty of failure baggage and a nickname of "Kakling Kamala" due to her nervous laughter at all the wrong moments. She is female and minority which will get the backs up of a lot of Americans who instinctively turn against Woke. However, she has a decent chance of garnering a great deal of the US electorate who just happen to be minority or female or indeed young. That is a lot of numbers if they bother to turn up. And don't forget those who turn up every 4 years and vote Democrat whoever it is. That is also a whole big number. However, her greatest trump card (ho ho) is her rival. She is not him. He is the living breathing definition of marmite where nobody thinks he is OK or doesn't mind him that much. It is love or hate. And the latter may not have bothered to turn up if the only alternative was Biden. And she is young. If he wins, Trump will be as old as Biden when he comes to the end of his term. Do US voters really want a repeat of all that? Your first sentence was a good one. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Jul 24 10.43am

Originally posted by silvertop

1st gloss Harris doesn't stand a hope.

She has come in with plenty of failure baggage and a nickname of "Kakling Kamala" due to her nervous laughter at all the wrong moments.

She is female and minority which will get the backs up of a lot of Americans who instinctively turn against Woke.

However, she has a decent chance of garnering a great deal of the US electorate who just happen to be minority or female or indeed young. That is a lot of numbers if they bother to turn up.

And don't forget those who turn up every 4 years and vote Democrat whoever it is. That is also a whole big number.

And she is young. If he wins, Trump will be as old as Biden when he comes to the end of his term. Do US voters really want a repeat of all that?

Your first sentence was a good one.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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MFW94 Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.44am
Originally posted by HKOwen This is such a WE type comment. Do you think having an interest in a subject makes you more qualified in your opinions? If you refer to my previous post just above. As I said I didnt say I was more qualified, I form an opinion based on both sides of the argument. I merely pointed out the A level thing as a point of reference to my initial interest in the matter in response to another query on my initial post of not posting on politics
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Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.44am

Originally posted by HKOwen

This is such a WE type comment. Do you think having an interest in a subject makes you more qualified in your opinions?

If you refer to my previous post just above. As I said I didnt say I was more qualified, I form an opinion based on both sides of the argument. I merely pointed out the A level thing as a point of reference to my initial interest in the matter in response to another query on my initial post of not posting on politics

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silvertop Portishead 22 Jul 24 10.47am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Your first sentence was a good one. I can always rely on you to exhaust the detail.
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Portishead 22 Jul 24 10.47am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your first sentence was a good one.

I can always rely on you to exhaust the detail.

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Stirlingsays 22 Jul 24 10.50am
Originally posted by MFW94 If you refer to my previous post just above. As I said I didnt say I was more qualified, I form an opinion based on both sides of the argument. I merely pointed out the A level thing as a point of reference to my initial interest in the matter in response to another query on my initial post of not posting on politics You just said America was in the dark ages regarding, 'guns, abortion and healthcare', I might agree with some of that but it sounds like you are very much taking one side. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Jul 24 10.50am

Originally posted by MFW94

You just said America was in the dark ages regarding, 'guns, abortion and healthcare', I might agree with some of that but it sounds like you are very much taking one side.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 24 10.50am
Originally posted by MFW94 I mean ill take that as a compliment - It isnt anything to shout about but I do have an understanding of how the US Political system works. I have also travelled to America enough times and have American friends (Some Republican & some democrat). Not saying I am remotely qualified but I like to read enough books, articles, etc both on the right, centre & left and form an opinion based on Facts. Clearly not everyone will always agree with what I think. Edited by MFW94 (22 Jul 2024 10.41am) Great. A word of advice. Don't constantly defend yourself and make it all about you. No one cares. You are entitled to an opinion, and I'm sure others will be open to it. I doubt most on here will agree with you on this subject, but as long as you don't mind debating with minority opinions and don't act like a narcissistic nutcase, you will be fine. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jul 2024 10.51am)
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22 Jul 24 10.50am

Originally posted by MFW94

Edited by MFW94 (22 Jul 2024 10.41am)

Great.
A word of advice.

Don't constantly defend yourself and make it all about you.

No one cares.

You are entitled to an opinion, and I'm sure others will be open to it.

I doubt most on here will agree with you on this subject, but as long as you don't mind debating with minority opinions and don't act like a narcissistic nutcase, you will be fine.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jul 2024 10.51am)

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Stirlingsays 22 Jul 24 10.51am
Originally posted by silvertop I can always rely on you to exhaust the detail. Tips hat. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Jul 24 10.51am

Originally posted by silvertop

I can always rely on you to exhaust the detail.

Tips hat.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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MFW94 Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.58am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You just said America was in the dark ages regarding, 'guns, abortion and healthcare', I might agree with some of that but it sounds like you are very much taking one side. Well the rest of the western world is pretty much settled on those 3 things, that it barely gets mentioned during elections etc. - of course healthcare if the caveat to that in this country but more about the funding and the discourse around it) Dark ages was probably wrong of me to use so I will apologize on that and was wrong of me to use that language - should of said something akin to Miles Behind.
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Sutton 22 Jul 24 10.58am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You just said America was in the dark ages regarding, 'guns, abortion and healthcare', I might agree with some of that but it sounds like you are very much taking one side.

Well the rest of the western world is pretty much settled on those 3 things, that it barely gets mentioned during elections etc. - of course healthcare if the caveat to that in this country but more about the funding and the discourse around it)

Dark ages was probably wrong of me to use so I will apologize on that and was wrong of me to use that language - should of said something akin to Miles Behind.

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