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 silvertop  Portishead 20 Oct 23 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Many Muslims are unemployed and have never worked a day. The political expediency which you suggest will destroy Britain as we knew it. Is that a price worth paying? The people who make these decisions won't suffer the consequences. How the Middle East views us will not depend on how many migrants we take. Throwing out criminals, terrorists and controlling borders is the right of every country. Who we allow here is our business. I don't see other Muslim countries in a hurry to take foreign Muslims. We are total mugs if we dance to the tune of the Arabs for any amount of return. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Oct 2023 5.04pm)
Your comment about Muslim countries not taking foreign Muslims supports one practical issue. Where do they go? Even if returned to their own country perhaps e.g pakistan won't have em? Too many vested interests in the Middle East market where we do very well. If we are seen to be targeting Muslims there may be issues. But the question remains. A party would win a landslide if they brought in these policies and they can be on either side of politics. Thus, if Labour had them in their manifesto they would clear up everywhere save in majority Muslim constituents which are too few. Yet the current crop are about as right as we go but do little more than play lip service to stopping the boats. Why?
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| Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Your comment about Muslim countries not taking foreign Muslims supports one practical issue. Where do they go? Even if returned to their own country perhaps e.g pakistan won't have em? Too many vested interests in the Middle East market where we do very well. If we are seen to be targeting Muslims there may be issues. But the question remains. A party would win a landslide if they brought in these policies and they can be on either side of politics. Thus, if Labour had them in their manifesto they would clear up everywhere save in majority Muslim constituents which are too few. Yet the current crop are about as right as we go but do little more than play lip service to stopping the boats. Why? Not if anyone with balls was in charge there wouldn't be. The point could be correctly made that their once religiously more pluralistic societies are now nearly 100 percent Islamic with other religions being persecuted and often denied the full benefits of citizenship. Policies that would protect western European nations are no different to what those countries already do themselves for their own cultures. The only difference being that they want to flock to this country but no one here wants to flock to theirs. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2023 9.58pm)
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| Stirlingsays 20 Oct 23 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Yet the current crop are about as right as we go but do little more than play lip service to stopping the boats. Why? That's been answered many times. Capital/Bretton Woods system (1971) and the Ponzi population pyramid scheme. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2023 10.02pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 21 Oct 23 10.25am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Many Muslims are unemployed and have never worked a day. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Oct 2023 5.04pm) and lets look at the extent to which they are successfully integrating into British society. Say, love, marriage & romance ? and its consequent fertility statistics ? is it all an evenly balanced playing-field ? with equal statistics going back and forth. Or is it all one-way traffic ?
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| Glazier#1 21 Oct 23 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think everyone knows the answer, except you, apparently. Ok, for those of us that are paid up members of the Hard Of Understanding Society, can you write down the answer to my question? Exactly what/who do you mean by 'conflicting ideologies'? Edited by Glazier#1 (21 Oct 2023 10.40am)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 21 Oct 23 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Ok, for those of us that are paid up members of the Hard Of Understanding Society, can you write down the answer to my question? Exactly what/who do you mean by 'conflicting ideologies'? Edited by Glazier#1 (21 Oct 2023 10.40am) What do you think? Which ideology conflicts with ours?
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| Glazier#1 21 Oct 23 11.16am |
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There might be quite a few, I was thinking. Is it possible that you could could name, specifically, who you are referring to? Not too difficult, I'd assume, since you seem to have very concrete ideas on the subject. Without specifics, you see, you might come across like those flippin' politicians we all hate, who just never answer a simple question.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Oct 23 11.17am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Your comment about Muslim countries not taking foreign Muslims supports one practical issue. Where do they go? Even if returned to their own country perhaps e.g pakistan won't have em? Too many vested interests in the Middle East market where we do very well. If we are seen to be targeting Muslims there may be issues. But the question remains. A party would win a landslide if they brought in these policies and they can be on either side of politics. Thus, if Labour had them in their manifesto they would clear up everywhere save in majority Muslim constituents which are too few. Yet the current crop are about as right as we go but do little more than play lip service to stopping the boats. Why? Stirling is quite right on this. To put it in colourful historical terms. The elites once had slaves to make them wealthier, and now they use low paid migrants to fill the gap. In terms of offending Muslim countries. You might be right about the expediency related to doing deals and keeping the pennies rolling in to the treasury but as voters, we have to fight this kind of thinking. The price we are paying and will pay more heavily in the future cannot be worth it. Only the already very rich will benefit.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Oct 23 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
There might be quite a few, I was thinking. Is it possible that you could could name, specifically, who you are referring to? Not too difficult, I'd assume, since you seem to have very concrete ideas on the subject. Without specifics, you see, you might come across like those flippin' politicians we all hate, who just never answer a simple question. So name them. You aren't really interested in my opinion. Let's hear what you are dying to say. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Oct 2023 11.20am)
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| Glazier#1 21 Oct 23 11.28am |
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Avoidance, pure and simple.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Oct 23 11.38am |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Avoidance, pure and simple. If you think you already know what I think, then you don't need to ask. If you really don't know, then I'm certainly not going to tell you. Do you have any more time to waste today? I really haven't.
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| Glazier#1 21 Oct 23 11.42am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you think you already know what I think, then you don't need to ask. If you really don't know, then I'm certainly not going to tell you. Do you have any more time to waste today? I really haven't. Huh? Lol.
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