I wouldn’t know but have seen it elsewhere and it usually comes from men who are intimidated by other men and therefore seek avenues through which to try and mitigate this feeling of inadequacy.

Watching the Letby thing now and as a quite literal statement of fact I am struggling to process any thoughts or feelings toward her. It’s the parents and babies my attention is focussed on and I’m almost regretting watching it. Its unfathomably heartbreaking and painful.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I believe so, yes.

Lucy Letby is the worst child serial killer this country has ever known. A nurse killing new born babies and attempting to kill several more. Her crimes are simply too appalling to even contemplate. Whilst in time there might be a factual documentary about the events, who in their right mind would want to produce a dramatised version of it, which I believe is what you were suggesting when you proposed Jodie Comer to play Ms Letby. Furthermore, who in their right mind would want to watch it?!

Whilst the Fred & Rose West cases were appalling and tragic, as were the cases of the sex offender Jimmy Saville, the outrage and disgust for the Letby case is sadly on a different level.

I sincerely hope that the families of the victims aren’t put through any more trauma and distress by such an appalling and distasteful idea.

Of course I’m frightened of you, you scary brute

I get really irritated by people that parrot what the right wing media tells them to think

It does look like in this case warning signs should have been heeded but you need to understand the context. People constantly make accusations of negligence in medical situations.

The comment was yet again the NHS has failed this country.

Really? How quickly some people forget. And if the NHS is failing the country how come so many other developed countries have worse records

The masses are encouraged to hate the NHS and the BBC not because relatively speaking they are poor, they are not. It is because power brokers want to take a piece of the action to make big bucks. So trashing their reputation plays to the very top tier of society which has no qualms if it can make money.

So many ‘opinions’, so little research.

Maple - your comments disturb me.
The management in this case failed to act in order to cover their own backsides and jobs.
If they had done as little as put the facts on a spreadsheet the evidence would have been there for all to see.
Lives could have been saved and some tragedy averted.
This is public sector management at its absolute worst and if you can't see that then God help you.

Edited by The Dolphin (19 Aug 2023 9.02am)

If you want to talk about the morals and law in relation to abortion then feel free to start your own thread but this one is about the Lucy Letby Trial.

Well done PB, in your efforts to keep this thread on topic. I suspect that, like me, you find this whole chapter in our country's history beyond unimaginably sickening.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.