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dreamwaverider London 17 May 23 5.58pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare 200k a week on a 4 year deal offered. A replacement will be 30-40 million on 120k plus a week. I think it's a good deal for all parties. Are you saying this has been formally offered?
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Originally posted by eaglesdare

200k a week on a 4 year deal offered.

A replacement will be 30-40 million on 120k plus a week.

I think it's a good deal for all parties.

Are you saying this has been formally offered?

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palace99 New Mills 17 May 23 6.06pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle But my point was would he have done that if he was on £100,000 per goal as was suggested he will already be on a win bonus and probably a goal bonus - nowhere near £100k but it won't be small change. Bonuses happen at every level of football and have done for years.
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New Mills 17 May 23 6.06pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

But my point was would he have done that if he was on £100,000 per goal as was suggested

he will already be on a win bonus and probably a goal bonus - nowhere near £100k but it won't be small change.

Bonuses happen at every level of football and have done for years.

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southnorwoodhill 17 May 23 6.30pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Dont mention the hundreds of times he should have taken the easier option and passed instead of trying to take on just that one player too many only to blast it into the upper Homelsdale. This 100%. A disastrous and illogical decision by the board if true, I always felt that the desire by Zaha to play in European competition was a ruse to get get more ££££££. With him it's all me me me. I can imagine the morale of the other players knowing that this whingeing chump is on 3 times salary yet not producing 3 times the output. Add in the likely and even potentially longer term injury problems and the club will have a proper sick note on its books to keep the others company. Unbelievable.
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Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Dont mention the hundreds of times he should have taken the easier option and passed instead of trying to take on just that one player too many only to blast it into the upper Homelsdale.

This 100%.
A disastrous and illogical decision by the board if true, I always felt that the desire by Zaha to play in European competition was a ruse to get get more ££££££. With him it's all me me me. I can imagine the morale of the other players knowing that this whingeing chump is on 3 times salary yet not producing 3 times the output.
Add in the likely and even potentially longer term injury problems and the club will have a proper sick note on its books to keep the others company.
Unbelievable.

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palace99 New Mills 17 May 23 6.32pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Get him signed up. It would cost 30/40 million to buy a player half the calibre of Wilf. Disagree. If we pay him £200k a week for 4 years, as has been 'suggested' in the papers this is madness. It's not just the overall cost of that package it's not knock on impact on wages across the squad. Our wage to revenue % is far too high and this has hamstrung the club for a number of years. The signing of Benteke blew the wage structure and every agent asked for a pay rise as a consequence. I can image the conversations - my player should be on at least 50%, 60% etc of the top earner. Once you start paying over £100k a week then it's easier to do it for others - Sakho, Zaha and Meyer etc. Now if Zaha does get £200k then the Eze's etc should surely be on at least £100k etc. Wilf's (regular) best days are now behind him and his injury record is starting to have an impact. He has been richly rewarded over the last 5 or 6 years, probably the best paid player outside the top six. I would love him to stay but only on a deal that fits the club's structure.
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New Mills 17 May 23 6.32pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Get him signed up. It would cost 30/40 million to buy a player half the calibre of Wilf.

Disagree. If we pay him £200k a week for 4 years, as has been 'suggested' in the papers this is madness.

It's not just the overall cost of that package it's not knock on impact on wages across the squad.

Our wage to revenue % is far too high and this has hamstrung the club for a number of years. The signing of Benteke blew the wage structure and every agent asked for a pay rise as a consequence. I can image the conversations - my player should be on at least 50%, 60% etc of the top earner. Once you start paying over £100k a week then it's easier to do it for others - Sakho, Zaha and Meyer etc.

Now if Zaha does get £200k then the Eze's etc should surely be on at least £100k etc.

Wilf's (regular) best days are now behind him and his injury record is starting to have an impact. He has been richly rewarded over the last 5 or 6 years, probably the best paid player outside the top six. I would love him to stay but only on a deal that fits the club's structure.

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Zaha127 17 May 23 6.32pm
People are forgetting that Zaha has a decent playing record in terms of not getting injured a lot. This season is his worst year injury wise and he has still played 27/38 EPL games which is still over 70 percent of EPL games he has played. Played 33/38 EPL matches in 2021/22, 30 in 2020/211 and 38 in 2019/20 so is not a player who is always out injured. Yes people will say Palace have Olise and Eze. But if he is in your side he makes the team stronger. If Palace had a clinical striker they would easily score 15+ goals a season when you have someone like Zaha, Olise and Eze on the same pitch.
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17 May 23 6.32pm

People are forgetting that Zaha has a decent playing record in terms of not getting injured a lot.

This season is his worst year injury wise and he has still played 27/38 EPL games which is still over 70 percent of EPL games he has played.

Played 33/38 EPL matches in 2021/22, 30 in 2020/211 and 38 in 2019/20 so is not a player who is always out injured.

Yes people will say Palace have Olise and Eze. But if he is in your side he makes the team stronger. If Palace had a clinical striker they would easily score 15+ goals a season when you have someone like Zaha, Olise and Eze on the same pitch.

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palace99 New Mills 17 May 23 6.36pm
Originally posted by Zaha127 People are forgetting that Zaha has a decent playing record in terms of not getting injured a lot. This season is his worst year injury wise and he has still played 27/38 EPL games which is still over 70 percent of EPL games he has played. Played 33/38 EPL matches in 2021/22, 30 in 2020/211 and 38 in 2019/20 so is not a player who is always out injured. Yes people will say Palace have Olise and Eze. But if he is in your side he makes the team stronger. If Palace had a clinical striker they would easily score 15+ goals a season when you have someone like Zaha, Olise and Eze on the same pitch. He has had an excellent injury record, however, 3 times in the last few months he has had muscle injuries and left the pitch during games. His body has hit his 'wall' after 15 odd years. This is the reality. His injury record will only get worse.
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New Mills 17 May 23 6.36pm

Originally posted by Zaha127

People are forgetting that Zaha has a decent playing record in terms of not getting injured a lot.

This season is his worst year injury wise and he has still played 27/38 EPL games which is still over 70 percent of EPL games he has played.

Played 33/38 EPL matches in 2021/22, 30 in 2020/211 and 38 in 2019/20 so is not a player who is always out injured.

He has had an excellent injury record, however, 3 times in the last few months he has had muscle injuries and left the pitch during games. His body has hit his 'wall' after 15 odd years. This is the reality. His injury record will only get worse.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 17 May 23 7.09pm
Originally posted by palace99 His body has hit his 'wall' after 15 odd years. This is the reality. His injury record will only get worse. although i am no expert, your opinions do have merit. I think Wilf was at his very peak two or three years ago. however, you often see Italian teams doing well in the champions League with a ton of older players. While i love Wilf, i love CPFC even more. Surely its time to avoid giving him a 5 year contract. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 May 2023 7.13pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by palace99

His body has hit his 'wall' after 15 odd years. This is the reality. His injury record will only get worse.

although i am no expert, your opinions do have merit. I think Wilf was at his very peak two or three years ago.

however, you often see Italian teams doing well in the champions League with a ton of older players. While i love Wilf, i love CPFC even more. Surely its time to avoid giving him a 5 year contract.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 May 2023 7.13pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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DANGERCLOSE London 17 May 23 9.33pm
I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left, we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast.
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London 17 May 23 9.33pm

I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left,
we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast.

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PJEagle London 17 May 23 9.50pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left, we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast. Clickbait latest [Link]
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London 17 May 23 9.50pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left,
we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast.

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pssguy 18 May 23 3.10am
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left, we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast. Wright was only 27 years old and had started just 206 games as a professional and, arguably, had not reached his peak. Zaha is 30 has started 381 games and is on the decline. There is no comparison
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18 May 23 3.10am

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

I would keep, he's a legend, I remember when Wright left,
we never found a good replacement and went down hill fast.

Wright was only 27 years old and had started just 206 games as a professional and, arguably, had not reached his peak. Zaha is 30 has started 381 games and is on the decline. There is no comparison

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The Dolphin 18 May 23 6.36am
Originally posted by CpfcWeTrust1 Couldn't disagree more. A gamble? You mean like money spent on the likes of Edouard or Mateta? I'd rather wilf has an injury every now and then, than be a total sack of spuds on the pitch. He costs nothing in buying him, he is still very skillful and puts in a shift most of the time. He draws fouls, draws players to him, knows the team inside and out, knows the ethos of Palace, has a go at players who aren't putting in the effort, he is a role model to the younger players we are getting in, he has carried this team for years before this season, you need to keep some of the older players to instill a mindset and attitude for playing for Palace. Once Ward goes... there really isn't any of the old squad left from promotion (at least who I can think of) who knows what it takes to fight to keep a squad up. I think he puts I far more than just a goal or 2. Look at other clubs who just buy a load of players in. The new players don't usually gives 2 turds as to what the club is about nor care if they stay up. You can buy in loads of young talent but it doesn't mean they'll be able to cut it in the Premier league as well as being far more likely to be prone to making errors and having lapses in concentration. In any case, I think it's a good decision.[/quote This with knobs on!!
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18 May 23 6.36am

Originally posted by CpfcWeTrust1

Couldn't disagree more.

A gamble? You mean like money spent on the likes of Edouard or Mateta? I'd rather wilf has an injury every now and then, than be a total sack of spuds on the pitch.

He costs nothing in buying him, he is still very skillful and puts in a shift most of the time. He draws fouls, draws players to him, knows the team inside and out, knows the ethos of Palace, has a go at players who aren't putting in the effort, he is a role model to the younger players we are getting in, he has carried this team for years before this season, you need to keep some of the older players to instill a mindset and attitude for playing for Palace. Once Ward goes... there really isn't any of the old squad left from promotion (at least who I can think of) who knows what it takes to fight to keep a squad up.

I think he puts I far more than just a goal or 2. Look at other clubs who just buy a load of players in. The new players don't usually gives 2 turds as to what the club is about nor care if they stay up.

You can buy in loads of young talent but it doesn't mean they'll be able to cut it in the Premier league as well as being far more likely to be prone to making errors and having lapses in concentration.

In any case, I think it's a good decision.[/quote

This with knobs on!!

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 18 May 23 6.53am
Well, to condense my aversion: 1. Age and deterioration risk 2. Injury risk 3. Opportunity cost 4. Young signings, at any price, can still be sold even at a loss If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Well, to condense my aversion:

1. Age and deterioration risk
2. Injury risk
3. Opportunity cost
4. Young signings, at any price, can still be sold even at a loss

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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