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Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Feb 23 8.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Yesterday my daughter met up with an old school friend. This young lady played fir England at hockey and won a silver medal at the Commonwealth games ( I digress). Anyway she has trained and qua,ivied as a physio, with the NHS. She has benn working in a hospital, however due to a ridiculous workload and unsympathetic management, she was signed off with stress by her GP. He recently advised she could return to work on a phased return. The hospital would not allow her to do this ( probably illegal?), so her NHS GP signed her off again
She has now secured a job at a local school as a sports coach. The school are also letting her use a room, a couple of nights a week to continue her physiotherapy, which is now on a private basis. Maybe this sort of unsympathetic management style is why staff are leaving. Just a thought

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Feb 23 8.27am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I believe that Nurses pensions are set at 15% top up on salary - why they deserve less than Teachers (23.68%) I have no idea - doesn't seem right to me!

It depends what the unions priorities were in the negotiations.

Some unions will go all out for a pay rise others staff retention or a good pension. It's trying to compare apples and oranges.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 07 Feb 23 8.44am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Spider - i would have said that the NHS people who said she couldn't could have their arses sued by a Tribunal but she probably isn't in the right place to do it.
Utter madness

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Feb 23 9.41am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Spider - i would have said that the NHS people who said she couldn't could have their arses sued by a Tribunal but she probably isn't in the right place to do it.
Utter madness

Yes I believe her GP even suggested thus but, as you have said, she is not in the right frame of mind and just wanted to put it all behind her.
Basically the NHS have lost a 29 year old qualified physio because of inept management. How many others does this count for?
Having worked in the public sector, phased returns were becoming more common place, especially as my job involved shift working patterns, not exactly conducive to good health.

Edited by Spiderman (07 Feb 2023 9.43am)

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 07 Feb 23 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Here in Norwich, at the Norfolk and Norwich hospital, the nurses were, like all striking nurses, asked to provide a 'skeleton staff' for patients.

Guess what? there were cases where no-one could go on strike because the 'skeleton staff' were all the staff they had!

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Feb 23 2.13pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe this sort of unsympathetic management style is why staff are leaving. Just a thought

According to what I have gleaned from my wife the poor management is a huge reason for nurses leaving.

She was entitled to seven weeks holiday a year but her boss quibbled every time she put in a holiday request as she wanted wifey to take her holiday entitlement in one week slots and during term time despite her having a child at school / college.

In the end I persuaded her to leave to find a more sympathetic employer and whilst she wasn't lost to the NHS she was lost to that hospital which shortly afterwards was put into special measures

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Feb 23 2.16pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Here in Norwich, at the Norfolk and Norwich hospital, the nurses were, like all striking nurses, asked to provide a 'skeleton staff' for patients.

Guess what? there were cases where no-one could go on strike because the 'skeleton staff' were all the staff they had!

My wife works for the Derby and Burton Hospital Trust and they voted not to strike. If the vote had gone the other way and wifey had gone on strike I would have disowned and divorced her.

I wonder if we will ever get statistics on how many hospital deaths could be attributable to striking nurses

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 07 Feb 23 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My wife works for the Derby and Burton Hospital Trust and they voted not to strike. If the vote had gone the other way and wifey had gone on strike I would have disowned and divorced her.

I wonder if we will ever get statistics on how many hospital deaths could be attributable to striking nurses

The thing is, ME, that people might say what you have just written but surely the end responsibility must be the government: what are you supposed to do if you keep telling them about the state of the service and they keep ignoring you for years?

The government's actions have ensured that we have blocked beds, amblances caught waiting outside A&E and people dying as a result.

Surely they need to be held to account as the prime instigators of the crisis?

Don't shoot the messenger.

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 2.31pm)

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Feb 23 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

The thing is, ME, that people might say what you have just written but surely the end responsibility must be the government: what are you supposed to do if you keep telling them about the state of the service and they keep ignoring you for years?

I was merely making a comment and not trying to apportion blame

 

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YT Flag Oxford 07 Feb 23 3.08pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

The thing is, ME, that people might say what you have just written but surely the end responsibility must be the government: what are you supposed to do if you keep telling them about the state of the service and they keep ignoring you for years?

The government's actions have ensured that we have blocked beds, amblances caught waiting outside A&E and people dying as a result.

Surely they need to be held to account as the prime instigators of the crisis?

Don't shoot the messenger.

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 2.31pm)


Just out of interest, what has the government (and I assume you mean the current government) done wrong, and what would you have done differently if you had been in charge?

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Feb 23 4.17pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes I believe her GP even suggested thus but, as you have said, she is not in the right frame of mind and just wanted to put it all behind her.
Basically the NHS have lost a 29 year old qualified physio because of inept management. How many others does this count for?
Having worked in the public sector, phased returns were becoming more common place, especially as my job involved shift working patterns, not exactly conducive to good health.

Edited by Spiderman (07 Feb 2023 9.43am)

or have they lost her by starting her with an unmanageable workload which made her so stressed she had to seek medical help?

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Feb 23 4.21pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My wife works for the Derby and Burton Hospital Trust and they voted not to strike. If the vote had gone the other way and wifey had gone on strike I would have disowned and divorced her.

I wonder if we will ever get statistics on how many hospital deaths could be attributable to striking nurses

Blimey.

 

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