It's those that don't live their principles that irritate me.

Do you live in a highly diverse area or a majority white area? People should live what they proclaim and if you live in a diverse area, while I might disagree with your politics I will at least accept you live your words.

Personally, I grew up in a highly diverse area with high crime rates. I can say I lived my views and know the practical outcome of the left/neoliberal fetish for 'diversity'. I can also say I have no more in group preference than say Stormzy 'I'm not anti white, I'm just pro black'. Stormzy is highly rewarded within society and I see very little in the way of attacks from the left on his racial preference....in fact he is lauded and applauded.

For me that just shows that this ideological argument is really just a emperor who has no clothes.

In fact I think from my position, I can say that being white is less important than being socially conservative. I support those within the non white communities that agree with conservative ordered society values. Where I differ is in the recognition that there will never be enough of them for effective racial harmony to be a reality. Those people are minorities within the minorities but I will always break bread with those people. I think most people who agree with the dissident right would have that position.

Instead, what we will have is majority strong group preference from non white communities...As Mohammed Ali said, 'birds of a feather flock together'...the demographic map is the physical evidence of that...the majority of the non white community will always vote for the non white candidate and then claim that white people are the 'racists'...Only white people would majority vote for an Obama because they are actually the least 'racist' ethnic group, a fact that is leading to their own destruction both in power and in numbers. No other majority ethnic group in any nation has ever majority voted for someone from a different ethnic group to be their national leader

The classic 'minority against the majority' power structure is the default....tribalism, it will never change and only white people are criticised and punished for it.

Multculturalism was always a utopian pipe dream and it was inflicted upon societies without consent and many who objected have been demonised and persecuted.

The left say that 'racism' is a great evil for them, yet I'm a big one for not listening to words but observing actions. In truth they justify anti white 'racism' under the far left 'equity' and historical oppression banner. They started with the 'equality' argument, but that was a way in...they dropped that lie and now use whatever tactics justifies their own anti white...especially anti white working class male progression.

I view your take on the Swedish election as little more than leftish cope, but you are entitled to your views.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2022 11.07am)

So, these 'lefties': are they white? Black? What? Are they upper class, middle class, working class?

The idea of white, working class males wanting to extinguish white, working class, males seems odd to me.

Is that what I'm going to do?

No. My main purpose in asking is so that other people reading this can make their own mind up.

I see so much NF/Mail/Sun echo chamber stuff on here, I realise that nothing I write will make any difference to these people. It's good, imo, however, for anyone reading these posts to be able to get either a different view, or be able to see the views explained so that they can make up their own mind, if they want.

For me to try to change your view?

I might as well whistle up my arse lol

The UK experience of the right over the last 12 years does not support the claims here:=

Increased immigration.
Increased crime.
Inflation.
Cost of Living crisis.
Energy crisis.
Failed privatisations.
Increased taxation.
Zero economic growth.
Britons cannot roam in 90% of their own country.
Increased authoritarianism.
Failing public services.
Low wages.
Chronic indebtedness.
Run for the a rich few and tory donors.
Endless scandals in public life.
Increased Corruption.
Increasingly undemocratic.

I could go on about how crap things are but you get my drift.

The previous labour years, even with the economic crisis, fare better on every measure.

Labour, compared to the tories, were paradise.

In fact with Blair basically ditching socialism for neo liberalism back in the nineties and the Tories ditching their remaining social conservatism back in 2010 with Cameron you essentially have a uni-party.

They essentially argue over tax and just who is more socially liberal.

You had a brief few years where Corbyn was took Labour away from neo liberalism but now they are back to trying to put a new spin on Blairism.