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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Feb 22 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Seems to me there is a lot of luck in football. You guys are drilling into real detail of individual players etc. If you look at the bigger picture Southampton, Brighton seem to have blossomed significantly this year. Fast on their heels are Villa and now Everton and Newcastle. All these, our peers, are cranking up the ante and seem to have sorted themselves out. We haven’t. Yet we can. For 30 minutes against Liverpool we literally ran rings around them then inexplicably just when we were looking like sinking them, we made 3 substitutions and lost thé impotence. So we can deliver and as a fan I sure hope we do. Absolutely...we are 2 years behind Brighton and Southampton in terms of developing our playing style. Some patience is required here....Potter had fans calling for his head as recently as the end of last year when they were on a run of 11 games without a win. The Saints manager has presided over 2 0-9 defeats and not only kept his job but continues to oversee an incremental improvement in his team.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Feb 22 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Absolutely...we are 2 years behind Brighton and Southampton in terms of developing our playing style. Some patience is required here....Potter had fans calling for his head as recently as the end of last year when they were on a run of 11 games without a win. The Saints manager has presided over 2 0-9 defeats and not only kept his job but continues to oversee an incremental improvement in his team. Very much agree. However, we could always revert to defending for our lives every 90mins and praying for a break away goal or two all the while providing adequate medical support for cardiac arrests. I hope Vieira is given the time, of course that we stay safe, and we start to reap the rewards of a new footballing identity. COYP
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Luarddd Redhill 14 Feb 22 12.16pm | |
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Originally posted by sprites
Hold on...I'm not saying I expect anything more from Eze at all. He's exactly where he should be after an injury like that...being slowly integrated back into the team. Eze is a cracking prospect...all I'm saying is that I don't think he's as good as Gallagher is for us right now. And yeah, fair point about the system. Although he's played a few minutes now for Vieria's system and hasn't looked up to it. Nothing poor about my post at all. Hasn’t looked up to it , he’s showed glimpses of his former self and you can’t expect anymore so phrase it like you expect it not like you don’t
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PatrickA London 14 Feb 22 12.21pm | |
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There’s no guarantee that Eze would have featured much more even if we didn’t have Gallagher. He only returned to training at the back end of last year.
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taylors lovechild 14 Feb 22 12.47pm | |
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As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic. The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 14 Feb 22 12.51pm | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic. The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle. I'd go along with that.
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Sansbup Norfolk 14 Feb 22 12.57pm | |
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What a bizarre thread! You want to get rid of one of our two best players? Weird.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 14 Feb 22 12.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
No Not wrong, 130 mins in an available 1170 mins, premier league games, you are not going to get match fit wit that Lanzo . . . Eze stats for this season are as follows(i was bored) Available for 13 games since 20-11-21(U23 game was 6-11-21. 94 mins) Come on as Sub 4 times 27-11-21 v Villa(60th min), 5-12-21 v Man Utd(84th min), 23-1-22 v Liverpool(69th min) & 9-2-22 v Norwich(80th min) Unused sub 6 times 20-11-21 v Burnley, 30-11-21 v Leeds, 12-12-21 v Everton, 15-12-21 v Southampton, 1-1-22 v W Ham & 12-2-22 v Brentford. 1170 available mins, 278 mins played, 892 mins unused sub.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Feb 22 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
As frustrating as it is for us in terms of a short-term fix, Vieira seems willing to look at the bigger picture, as seen with his careful handling of Olise, and is perhaps also having Eze's return managed in conjunction with the physio team? You can't compare Gallagher and Eze though as they're two different types of players. One will work his ar$e off for 90 minutes and will scrap for everything, while the other has that bit of magic in his pocket that can settle games like Brentford with a bit of magic. The problem is if Eze plays in the middle then Gallagher has to sit deeper where he's less effective. If Eze plays on the left he drifts out of games. It's a puzzle but one I trust Vieira to solve in the end. Once we're safe I think we should have one eye on next season and perhaps look at giving our players more game time as Gallagher is not going to be here next season barring a miracle. I concur with these sentiments.
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CrazyBadger Ware 14 Feb 22 1.54pm | |
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Originally posted by palace99
Eze is a fantastic prospect and when on form can glide past opponents, however, he can quite often go missing in games and not sure he has the workrate for a midfield position. His best two games last season were v Sheffield Utd, who were a championship team. Agree with your Post, though you Could say the same(in bold) about Olise.. his best 2 games were in the Cup; Milwall and Hartlepool. Vieira is managing both well.
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ambrose7 Croydon 14 Feb 22 3.09pm | |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
Agree with your Post, though you Could say the same(in bold) about Olise.. his best 2 games were in the Cup; Milwall and Hartlepool. Vieira is managing both well. I think that's a tad harsh on Olise. He has 6 goal involvements in 564 league minutes. He only averages 33 minutes per league appearance too so he hits the ground running. He can go quiet in games, I remember a start against Vila(?) which was way off his best, but he's got that Clinton Morrison quality of delivering a moment or two which the rest of the squad combined has struggled with in recent weeks.
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CrazyBadger Ware 14 Feb 22 3.41pm | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
I think that's a tad harsh on Olise. He has 6 goal involvements in 564 league minutes. He only averages 33 minutes per league appearance too so he hits the ground running. He can go quiet in games, I remember a start against Vila(?) which was way off his best, but he's got that Clinton Morrison quality of delivering a moment or two which the rest of the squad combined has struggled with in recent weeks. Not trying to Be harsh on Olise, Just trying to show a comparison. He's definately been a good 'super sub' vs tiring legs, where he's Started he hasn't had the Same impact.. granted he hasn't started much. But he's young, and has obvious quality.
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