Danny Mills is not very bright. Bless him.

True, but just as true is that said filters will always be arbitrary, not along predictable lines that benefit us. Any surface politically idealised outcome, such as the 'everyone in' of the far left or 'turf em out' of the far right will still end up with people waking up the next day with the sh!t end of the stick in one way or another. There will always be another 'target for blame' and it will be someone with very little; those with disabilities perhaps, the poor being ever squeezed and so on. There is no 'white brother', nor 'coke advert' scenario. It's all varying degrees of guff because as soon as people appear to have more in common or power they just fragment in other ways on account of how convenient yet ridiculous most of these distinctions are to begin with. They are useful distinctions until they're not.

I'm no fan of mass immigration for instance. I do however appreciate the realities of society and where we're at, whereas Hrolf has essentially said multiple times that how non-whites are perceived changes peoples views of immigration. I have little interest in finding ways to do down my fellow man in some kind of misjudged belief that it will long term shift demographics a couple of percentage points this way or that. I would personally prefer to appreciate good people outside of any preconceived half baked idea of them. Most black people in my family or circle aren't some kind of hyper politicised BLM members and don't give a fig about any of this stuff. People would benefit from not letting their view of groups be disproportionately coloured by the actions of activists or media - in turn becoming exactly like those activists and formats with their own 'broadcasts'.

But anyway, as you said, it's pretty pointless to even talk about this anyway as it's not about to change anything..

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 12.51am)

While I recognise your good intent we don't tend to agree on much in this area, though we certainly concur on your last sentence.

I can see 3 or 4 sweet and innocents here who deserve to be arrested after the fact

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It's interesting to contrast your views of how 'pathetic' the police are here for upholding the law (and how unbothered you are when they are physically attacked for doing so) with your attitude to women getting roughed up by police when protesting Sarah Everard being raped and murdered. In that case you appeared to believe they got exactly that they deserved for being part of an 'illegal gathering'.

This gem too:

"The lack of respect for the police from all sides is shameful. They are the blunt instrument that upholds the law.
After doing their job, they then get criticised from all sides.

These women were breaking the law end of story. "

Perhaps you should decided whether it's important for police to uphold the law or not. Or is it just combinations of law and demographics that match your personal preference that decide whether police 'deserve respect' or are 'pathetic'? Getting on the wrong side of that equation turns the reverence you have for them upholding the law into amusement at them being met with violence when they do. While I appreciate that peoples politics and biases bleed into their take on things, there are surely limits. The steam from the ears race fixation evaporates every principle in its path.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Oct 2021 4.24pm)

I can't recall seeing such a daft use of the police, python-esque.

'How to disarm a man, armed with a pointed stick'

'First, take the stick etc. etc.'

What could they do, well wait until the end and separate the cause I would suggest, but like that it just provokes a general reaction as we can see.

I can't recall seeing such a daft use of the police, python-esque.

'How to disarm a man, armed with a pointed stick'

'First, take the stick etc. etc.'

What could they do, well wait until the end and separate the cause I would suggest, but like that it just provokes a general reaction as we can see.