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 Badger11  Beckenham 30 Sep 21 2.37pm |
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Domininc Raab Not a stupid idea and to be honest nothing to do with the current staff shortage issue, this is a decades old problem. What you do with prisoners when they are released to prevent re-offending? Timpsons has a great record of employing them sadly many others don't. You have to draw the line with some offenders but many others could be rehabilitated through work.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Sep 21 2.43pm |
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This country needs a housing fetish.....but the nimbies don't want it in their backyard. But if they don't like it they should stop voting for immigration parties because expansion becomes inevitable.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Sep 21 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Why do you insist on including hypotheticals in every post? Can you not just hold a discussion on what's in front of you rather than inventing positions? "I can guarantee..." I've made no comments on Starmer's £15 minimum wage, so you have no idea my view on it - just because you subscribe to group-think, it doesn't mean everyone else does. Just address the points being made and you might not have to fall back on moronic phrases like 'remoaner lefties' to try and support your argument. Maybe I got carried away, but that was a good way of avoiding the examples I gave of how the labour market would shuffle around to fill vacancies. Would take time of course, but you seem certain that people won’t do vacant roles. A million off furlough today up to £26,000. However, I do recall some very recently on here say they want higher wages but complain when they could be coming that prices will rise. DanH definitely got twisted up on this yesterday and I’ve heard several on media programmes do it as well. Funny enough they start off with Brexit this and that and there’s no solution.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Sep 21 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I agree on incentivising working, I just don't think you can do it to the extent others do. I don't think you can make the dole finite - as you allude to, the age-old problem with a welfare system is that it is always going to be exploitable to some extent, and you will always have people happy to exploit it. The question is whether you cut off those in genuine need of help to stop the exploiters.. like you, I'd argue you don't. So you tighten all the loop holes you can, you incentivise people to work as much as you can, I just don't think it's sufficient to plug the level of gaps we're talking about. In terms of money lost the wealthy far out abuse the system than the poor......We have a thousand government quangos for example....tax avoidance and so on. But the system likes to focus upon the weaker prey.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Sep 21 2.55pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Maybe I got carried away, but that was a good way of avoiding the examples I gave of how the labour market would shuffle around to fill vacancies. Would take time of course, but you seem certain that people won’t do vacant roles. A million off furlough today up to £26,000. However, I do recall some very recently on here say they want higher wages but complain when they could be coming that prices will rise. DanH definitely got twisted up on this yesterday and I’ve heard several on media programmes do it as well. Funny enough they start off with Brexit this and that and there’s no solution. Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition. I'm smelling corporate Labour again.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Sep 21 2.55pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This country needs a housing fetish.....but the nimbies don't want it in their backyard. But if they don't like it they should stop voting for immigration parties because expansion becomes inevitable. I’ve often wondered what the voting mix is of the nimbies being anti new housing. Probably Tory in the Home Counties. Lib Dem in Cornwall and the safe haven of Truro. Would it match the voting percentages? Quite funny that quite a few Lib Dem’s opposed one of Ron Noades’ gold clubs being used for housing recently. Chaldon Road in caterham. There’s a nice housing estate up where warlingham park psychiatric hospital used to be and there’s so much unused grounds up there. Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Sep 2021 2.58pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Sep 21 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition. I'm smelling corporate Labour again. Never thought of that. £15 is fecking mental. Over £10 probably. £15 is just mad.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Sep 21 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I’ve often wondered what the voting mix is of the nimbies being anti new housing. Probably Tory in the Home Counties. Lib Dem in Cornwall and the safe haven of Truro. Would it match the voting percentages? Quite funny that quite a few Lib Dem’s opposed one of Ron Noades’ gold clubs being used for housing recently. Chaldon Road in caterham. There’s a nice housing estate up where warlingham park psychiatric hospital used to be and there’s so much unused grounds up there. Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Sep 2021 2.58pm) Perhaps they can't put two and two together or they are just that dodgy person who is full of principles for others but won't live them personally.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 30 Sep 21 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Perhaps they can't put two and two together or they are just that dodgy person who is full of principles for others but won't live them personally. Cornwall for the Cornish as long as they get UK tax receipts for the Cornish.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Sep 21 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Cornwall for the Cornish as long as they get UK tax receipts for the Cornish. I couldn't possibly comment.
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| DanH SW2 30 Sep 21 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition. I'm smelling corporate Labour again. You’re actually correct again
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| Spiderman Horsham 30 Sep 21 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
You’re actually correct again Ffs what is going on here Edited by Spiderman (30 Sep 2021 4.29pm)
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