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DanH SW2 08 Sep 21 9.05pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
But we are led to beleive that the fees payable for the education will allow you to earn at least 10% higher wages. That 9% is like a free hit. And I don't think the NI should be included as we all pay it. Basically it's 20 % tax like anyone under 50k. How much deposit is needed for a mortgage? This is some really bizarre maths and logic. You need 20% typically for a deposit, although help to buy can reduce this if you qualify. Average house price for a one bedroom property in London is £485k. A 20% deposit is £97k. How is a young person taking home about £1,500 net a month supposed to pay their rent and bills and still save enough to even scratch the surface of that?
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Spiderman Horsham 08 Sep 21 9.06pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Newly qualified graduates with student debt who earn over the £28k threshold now have a marginal tax rate of 42.25% with repayments taken into account. How is that generation ever meant to save to get on the housing ladder? I agree. My daughter and her boyfriend are both Senior Spacecraft Engineers, so earn good money. My daughter left University with well over £50k in debt, which has interest added as well.
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DanH SW2 08 Sep 21 9.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I agree. My daughter and her boyfriend are both Senior Spacecraft Engineers, so earn good money. My daughter left University with well over £50k in debt, which has interest added as well. Cool jobs! Assume she gets her brains from her mother Realistically the only way of getting on the housing ladder is with a helping hand from family or through inheritance. Saving up for a deposit is nigh on impossible unless you’re on silly money very early in your career.
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Spiderman Horsham 08 Sep 21 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Cool jobs! Assume she gets her brains from her mother Realistically the only way of getting on the housing ladder is with a helping hand from family or through inheritance. Saving up for a deposit is nigh on impossible unless you’re on silly money very early in your career. Haha and her looks ( luckily). Yep would never have got on ladder without our help. Her boyfriend was paying £900 pm rent for a studio flat excluding bills. Even now trying to get a house is proving very difficult
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Sep 21 9.31pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
But they’re not excellent points are they? They’re a huge oversimplification of a hugely complex issue suited to his and your prejudices. Blaming immigration solely is so, so lazy and all it does is highlight the kind of person you are rather than a rational, sensible grown up. I think it is rather that you just cannot accept a simple reality because you have been conditioned to be in denial about it your whole life.
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DanH SW2 08 Sep 21 9.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think it is rather that you just cannot accept a simple reality because you have been conditioned to be in denial about it your whole life. Claiming someone has been ‘indoctrinated’ when there’s a wealth of academic studies out there on the housing market just makes you look like an arrogant and ignorant tit you realise, don’t you?
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 21 9.48pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is some really bizarre maths and logic. You need 20% typically for a deposit, although help to buy can reduce this if you qualify. Average house price for a one bedroom property in London is £485k. A 20% deposit is £97k. How is a young person taking home about £1,500 net a month supposed to pay their rent and bills and still save enough to even scratch the surface of that? I moved out of London to afford a house.
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 21 10.01pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is some really bizarre maths and logic. You need 20% typically for a deposit, although help to buy can reduce this if you qualify. Average house price for a one bedroom property in London is £485k. A 20% deposit is £97k. How is a young person taking home about £1,500 net a month supposed to pay their rent and bills and still save enough to even scratch the surface of that? 20% is on the high side. If you accept a higher interest rate over a longer term then 5% will work with some lenders. Again a lot in cash for a 400k house of 20k but easier than 80k. Remember that a mortgage is a marathon not a sprint. I always avoided looking at the total I would pay at the end as over 25 years it will be at least 2x what i borrowed . Over a 50 year term it could be far greater but the property value should cover it at the end.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Sep 21 10.02pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is some really bizarre maths and logic. You need 20% typically for a deposit, although help to buy can reduce this if you qualify. Average house price for a one bedroom property in London is £485k. A 20% deposit is £97k. How is a young person taking home about £1,500 net a month supposed to pay their rent and bills and still save enough to even scratch the surface of that? Move to Scotland. A 3 bedroom detached house in a nice area will cost half as much.
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 21 10.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Move to Scotland. A 3 bedroom detached house in a nice area will cost half as much. Thank you
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 08 Sep 21 10.38pm | |
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Can the thread title be changed to "Why can't the young be given more money because house prices have gone up"? Or something similar. Or maybe get back on topic....
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jeeagles 09 Sep 21 12.20am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I agree. My daughter and her boyfriend are both Senior Spacecraft Engineers, so earn good money. My daughter left University with well over £50k in debt, which has interest added as well. It's a nice area. They've built a lot of flats round and about so young people can get on the housing ladder.... unfortunately, they haven't built any new houses so slightly less young people can't move out. Then huge amounts of housing stock in the area is taken up by empty nesters. Looking at my parents roads, at least half the houses are 3/4 bedroom with retired couples in them. Whilst I may be completely heartless, if my parents had to sell their house to fund care then it wouldn't be the end of the world. They have no mortgage left. Another, option would be to refinance the house on an interest only mortgage to pay for funding, then sell it when they pop their clogs. They are asset rich, it would help free up housing stock, it might slow down the constant rises in house prices, it would end this cycle where future generations would have to keep taking on the financial burdens of future generations. Although, this idea might not work outside of the south east of England so may require some tweaking.
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