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Eaglecoops CR3 02 Jul 21 11.22am
Originally posted by Badger11 All good points the bottom line is that the EU and then the individual countries have decided how to treat our citizens. I think when you compare their residency process to ours e.g. free and quick we have nothing to be ashamed of. As to the ex Pats to be honest I don't care surely part of moving to a foreign country is to get away from the UK they seem to want it both ways, it's the risk you take when you move abroad. Edited by Badger11 (02 Jul 2021 11.00am) Most of the permanent ex pats are sorted with their Spanish residency, it is only the Brits that lived there and stuck their heads in the sand that have suffered. I have no sympathy with those. As I mentioned, the real issue is for the Swallows who own property and spend the summer in the UK and the winter abroad. They have effectively had the time they can spend there halved. For the super rich who have places in say the Caribbean too there is no issue as they just fly off somewhere else warm for 3 months but for those with second homes in Europe, they are being penalised.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 02 Jul 21 11.22am

Originally posted by Badger11

All good points the bottom line is that the EU and then the individual countries have decided how to treat our citizens. I think when you compare their residency process to ours e.g. free and quick we have nothing to be ashamed of.

As to the ex Pats to be honest I don't care surely part of moving to a foreign country is to get away from the UK they seem to want it both ways, it's the risk you take when you move abroad.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Jul 2021 11.00am)

Most of the permanent ex pats are sorted with their Spanish residency, it is only the Brits that lived there and stuck their heads in the sand that have suffered. I have no sympathy with those.

As I mentioned, the real issue is for the Swallows who own property and spend the summer in the UK and the winter abroad. They have effectively had the time they can spend there halved. For the super rich who have places in say the Caribbean too there is no issue as they just fly off somewhere else warm for 3 months but for those with second homes in Europe, they are being penalised.

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corkery Cork City 02 Jul 21 12.29pm
I think the media, especially the Guardian and the BBC are leading project fear when it comes to UK immigrants in Europe. For almost all of these countries, it's just a small form once a year. No big deal. Only a complete fool would end up being deported and that would be after 100 warnings. We'll never die
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corkery

Cork City 02 Jul 21 12.29pm

I think the media, especially the Guardian and the BBC are leading project fear when it comes to UK immigrants in Europe. For almost all of these countries, it's just a small form once a year. No big deal. Only a complete fool would end up being deported and that would be after 100 warnings.

We'll never die

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HKOwen Hong Kong 02 Jul 21 12.30pm
Oh the problems of having a second home in Europe, must be a nightmare...... UK offered residency to all EU nationals who wanted it, did the EU not reciprocate, I have no idea and no dog in the fight Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 02 Jul 21 12.30pm

Oh the problems of having a second home in Europe, must be a nightmare......

UK offered residency to all EU nationals who wanted it, did the EU not reciprocate, I have no idea and no dog in the fight

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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silvertop Portishead 02 Jul 21 9.08pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Sure. Less Eastern European’s taking jobs for locals Less Eastern European’s taking school places Less Eastern European’s taking up hospital places Less Eastern European’s under cutting local tradesman Less Eastern European’s pushing up rents making unaffordable housing for locals Just shout if you want any more National socialism alive and well on HOL.
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silvertop

Portishead 02 Jul 21 9.08pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Sure.

Less Eastern European’s taking jobs for locals

Less Eastern European’s taking school places

Less Eastern European’s taking up hospital places

Less Eastern European’s under cutting local tradesman

Less Eastern European’s pushing up rents making unaffordable housing for locals

Just shout if you want any more

National socialism alive and well on HOL.

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 02 Jul 21 10.07pm
Its great news for Sunderland. It saves on dole money in the long run. Great piece of socialism from the Tories. Wealthy southerners pay to keep northerners in work. Totally support it, not that I would ever by a Nissan. You can't beat a German car. As for the fisherman and the farmers, the previous poster a few pages back was right. Nobody does actually give a s*** about them. Sad but true. I am a little worried about the talk about lack of supermarket stock due to no lorry drivers. That needs sorting out. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 02 Jul 21 10.07pm

Its great news for Sunderland. It saves on dole money in the long run. Great piece of socialism from the Tories. Wealthy southerners pay to keep northerners in work. Totally support it, not that I would ever by a Nissan. You can't beat a German car.
As for the fisherman and the farmers, the previous poster a few pages back was right. Nobody does actually give a s*** about them. Sad but true.
I am a little worried about the talk about lack of supermarket stock due to no lorry drivers. That needs sorting out.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jul 21 10.16pm
Lost friends and divorce, family break-ups. If you were with a remain or leave nutcase who lived for it 24/7, you would probably consider brexiting yourself out of the situation. Wonder if Gove is such a case.
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steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jul 21 10.16pm

Lost friends and divorce, family break-ups.

If you were with a remain or leave nutcase who lived for it 24/7, you would probably consider brexiting yourself out of the situation.

Wonder if Gove is such a case.

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Teddy Eagle 02 Jul 21 10.24pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Lost friends and divorce, family break-ups. If you were with a remain or leave nutcase who lived for it 24/7, you would probably consider brexiting yourself out of the situation. Wonder if Gove is such a case. He can appear in a re-make with Hancock. Matt & Mike: The Really Odd Couple.
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Teddy Eagle

02 Jul 21 10.24pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Lost friends and divorce, family break-ups.

If you were with a remain or leave nutcase who lived for it 24/7, you would probably consider brexiting yourself out of the situation.

Wonder if Gove is such a case.

He can appear in a re-make with Hancock. Matt & Mike: The Really Odd Couple.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 02 Jul 21 10.33pm
Originally posted by BlueJay Remain or leave all seems a little academic now as the result is clearly not something that will be revisited for a good few years. My favourite comedy characters of the piece though are those 'expats' living in Spain who voted to leave the EU and were positively stunned when some of them then had to return home. Ha. Seconded. Helmets Only issue is now they have to come back. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 02 Jul 21 10.33pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Remain or leave all seems a little academic now as the result is clearly not something that will be revisited for a good few years. My favourite comedy characters of the piece though are those 'expats' living in Spain who voted to leave the EU and were positively stunned when some of them then had to return home.

Ha. Seconded. Helmets

Only issue is now they have to come back.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays 02 Jul 21 10.41pm
Originally posted by silvertop National socialism alive and well on HOL. That's one hell of a leap. That's like saying if you believe in equality you're a communist. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Jul 21 10.41pm

Originally posted by silvertop

National socialism alive and well on HOL.

That's one hell of a leap.

That's like saying if you believe in equality you're a communist.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 02 Jul 21 10.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's one hell of a leap. That's like saying if you believe in equality you're a communist. Too right.. worst thing was giving them the vote Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 02 Jul 21 10.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's one hell of a leap.

That's like saying if you believe in equality you're a communist.

Too right.. worst thing was giving them the vote

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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Stirlingsays 02 Jul 21 11.18pm
Originally posted by kevlee Too right.. worst thing was giving them the vote Whoever you vote for you largely get the same result.....the icing might look different but the sponge is the same. It's deliberate. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Jul 21 11.18pm

Originally posted by kevlee

Too right.. worst thing was giving them the vote

Whoever you vote for you largely get the same result.....the icing might look different but the sponge is the same.

It's deliberate.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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BlueJay UK 02 Jul 21 11.41pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops They had no-one to blame but themselves. The Spanish made it abundantly clear what steps you had to take and a timescale if you wanted to stay and it wasn't difficult, you just had to apply for non-fiscal residency and all you had to prove for this was self sufficiency. I do think some slipped between the cracks regarding being allowed to stay, but on the whole I totally agree. It was an entitled 'an Englishman is home wherever he goes' type attitude that led to some not bothering to realise that countries have their own laws and processes. Some couldn't be bothered to file a few forms by a set date and are now living the consequences of a situation they put themselves in. Maybe they should've left voting to people who can be bothered to actually still live in the country . Edited by BlueJay (02 Jul 2021 11.46pm)
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BlueJay

UK 02 Jul 21 11.41pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

They had no-one to blame but themselves. The Spanish made it abundantly clear what steps you had to take and a timescale if you wanted to stay and it wasn't difficult, you just had to apply for non-fiscal residency and all you had to prove for this was self sufficiency.

I do think some slipped between the cracks regarding being allowed to stay, but on the whole I totally agree. It was an entitled 'an Englishman is home wherever he goes' type attitude that led to some not bothering to realise that countries have their own laws and processes. Some couldn't be bothered to file a few forms by a set date and are now living the consequences of a situation they put themselves in. Maybe they should've left voting to people who can be bothered to actually still live in the country .

Edited by BlueJay (02 Jul 2021 11.46pm)

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