and many Brits go and live in many other EU countries. Many other EU countries are still attractive places to live. So what? It works both ways.

Yes I do like my facts. Having lived in 7 EU countries I've come across a lot of Brits who have been living outside of the UK. I also lived in the UK for years, so that gives balanced view from real experience of life in other cultures, being able to not only compare non-UK countries with the UK but also non-UK countries with other non-UK countries as the world doesn't revolve around the UK, which might come as a surprise to many on here.

Edited by Orange1290 (05 Jun 2021 7.42am)

Yes I do like my facts. Having lived in 7 EU countries I've come across a lot of Brits who have been living outside of the UK. I also lived in the UK for years, so that gives balanced view from real experience of life in other cultures, being able to not only compare non-UK countries with the UK but also non-UK countries with other non-UK countries as the world doesn't revolve around the UK, which might come as a surprise to many on here.

Edited by Orange1290 (05 Jun 2021 7.42am)

The - largely pre-Brexit - stats for year to March 2020 are:

EU citizens also continue to add to the UK population, with 195,000 EU citizens moving to the UK with an intention of staying 12 months or more, with 137,000 leaving the UK. This has created a net migration estimate of 58,000 for EU citizens.

Statistician's comment

"Our best estimate of net migration, using all available data sources, is 313,000 for the year ending March 2020. After a period of stability, we were seeing migration levels begin to increase in the past 12 months leading up to the coronavirus pandemic. This was being driven by increases in non-EU student arrivals, mainly from China and India.‘’

Hong Kong looks like driving a new wave.

So pre Brexit net migration is less than one fifth of the total and is likely to have fallen and continue to fall since then.

Yes I do like my facts. Having lived in 7 EU countries I've come across a lot of Brits who have been living outside of the UK. I also lived in the UK for years, so that gives balanced view from real experience of life in other cultures, being able to not only compare non-UK countries with the UK but also non-UK countries with other non-UK countries as the world doesn't revolve around the UK, which might come as a surprise to many on here.

Edited by Orange1290 (05 Jun 2021 7.42am)

Sure because we have additional experiences and can make qualified comparisons. Without that experience, what are you measuring against? What we do see is a constant 'flag waving' within the UK and assumption that everyone else's ideas are second rate or not worth listening to. Understandable from those who don't have the experience of other cultures but that doesn't make their 'views' correct at all. I always listen to those with experience in areas that are of interest or of importance to my life rather than contradict or ignore simply because I can't accept that I don't have that experience. Still, I don't expect that to be understood by some on here as they only look outwards from within, rather than having the experience to also look within from outside.