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cryrst The garden of England 14 Mar 21 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Jesus Christ. All they were doing was trying to pay respect and lay flowers for a murdered woman. Take a look at yourself lads. During a pandemic. Not very respectful!
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Mar 21 10.20am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Jesus Christ. All they were doing was trying to pay respect and lay flowers for a murdered woman. Take a look at yourself lads. Not social distancing and the women arrested (only 4) were making speeches. You would do your nut if that was Tommy Robinson and his mates and the police stood by and did nothing. I understand the anger from the protestors my anger is directed not at them but at the politicians criticising the police. Those same people only complain about police tactics if they agree with the protestors otherwise they are the first to ask why did the police allow it.
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The Dolphin 14 Mar 21 10.23am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The murder of Sarah Everard is the latest tragic case to receive large publicity.....though in 2018/19 there were 671 murders and we know that the vast majority of them...all tragic, received very little publicity compared to hers. Obviously we all hope that the person(s) responsible for this murder are rightly convicted. I can only imagine what her family are going through. The point I wish to make is on how this murder has been used by certain activist groups who are well funded and ideologically driven.. While Everard's case is prominent they are using the opportunity to present disingenuous figures to promote a disfigured picture to the media and politicians. For certain ideological publications these figures are pushing at an open door. Yet little digging, questioning and critical thinking is applied to whether the figures are objectively sourced. Instead the media pick up and repeat without questioning and most normies just accept them as fact. Here is a link to a video questioning figures that certain groups have been using to push their agenda at this tragic time. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2021 1.46am)
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The Dolphin 14 Mar 21 10.56am | |
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I cannot stand Cressida Dick but the Met did the right thing and I hope that she stands her ground.
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Stirlingsays 14 Mar 21 11.01am | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
671 murders of Women are you saying? No, murders in general.
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Stirlingsays 14 Mar 21 11.06am | |
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Personally I'm against the police powers that have been given over for this pandemic. So while I completely agree with points about the hypocrisy I just don't support the principle that the state get this much control.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Mar 21 11.31am | |
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Was there any racism there last night? Important and regular procedure to look into the possibility there was.
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stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 14 Mar 21 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Jesus Christ. All they were doing was trying to pay respect and lay flowers for a murdered woman. Take a look at yourself lads. And how exactly would you feel if you hadn't attended a friends funeral because of number limits, only for the police to allow all these people to gather for somebody 90% of them didn't know?
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SavoyTruffle 14 Mar 21 11.45am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Personally I'm against the police powers that have been given over for this pandemic. So while I completely agree with points about the hypocrisy I just don't support the principle that the state get this much control. But it's not just about the pandemic policing powers though is it. This government is ideologically driven to push through as much opportunity for state enforced power as possible - many on here cry about eroded free speech but are willing to wave through (or at the best turn a blind eye), to the ongoing power snatch being carried out by the home office because it's seen as being done by their side of the political spectrum. It stems from a desire to stop dissenting voices and avoid all scrutiny and it's Johnson's MO... always has been. The attached is just one section of the many very troubling elements of the crime bill that's going to parliament this week. It's important to recognise who is implementing these curbs on our freedom and for what ends... I will add that it's pathetic that the best Labour can offer at the moment is to abstain on their vote. Attachment: Crime bill.jfif (174.74Kb)
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DanH SW2 14 Mar 21 12.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Not social distancing and the women arrested (only 4) were making speeches. You would do your nut if that was Tommy Robinson and his mates and the police stood by and did nothing. I understand the anger from the protestors my anger is directed not at them but at the politicians criticising the police. Those same people only complain about police tactics if they agree with the protestors otherwise they are the first to ask why did the police allow it. That Tommy Robinson line is shameful. A woman was murdered by a policeman and people were paying respects. There’s more outrage on here at people gathering for a vigil then outrage at what actually happened. This place is always full of horrendous takes on things but this might just be the worst yet.
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cryrst The garden of England 14 Mar 21 12.15pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
That Tommy Robinson line is shameful. A woman was murdered by a policeman and people were paying respects. There’s more outrage on here at people gathering for a vigil then outrage at what actually happened. This place is always full of horrendous takes on things but this might just be the worst yet. Get over yourself. Wheres the vigil for the raped girls who TR highlighted. Knowhere because its not on the agenda to tell the truth if it involves anything that might offend minorities.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Mar 21 12.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Personally I'm against the police powers that have been given over for this pandemic. So while I completely agree with points about the hypocrisy I just don't support the principle that the state get this much control. Yes I didn’t believe this ‘Almost all women have experienced sexual harassment’ claim either. Causes a lot of issues claiming this. I find myself seeing the point of view of all sides on this subject. But it was only a matter of time until the office professionals and of course most virtuous felt like they were being unfairly treated. And if this was a lady somewhere up north it wouldn’t have been the big news story because they never are. It’s probably more risky out at night because of lockdown/restrictions. And the Labour Welsh first minister wants a 6pm curfew for men. Unfortunately one on one male on female crimes have been happening for ever, but gang rape and grooming like we’ve seen hasn’t. Well it almost completely hasn’t.
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