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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jul 20 9.38am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Cheers for this, Willo!

The chap does not have a definitive answer.

I believe there is a legal battle in progress and any points deductions might not come into force until next season.

I have just perused this :

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Edited by Willo (27 Jul 2020 9.40am)

 

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Pierre Flag Purley 31 Jul 20 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

When do we all get to hear about Sheff Wed verdict?

They are going around the houses, too frightened to have sorted it by the end of last season so any points deduction will commence next season.
Lucky old Wednesday! That ruling wouldn't have happened to Palace would it!!

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 31 Jul 20 8.44pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Pierre

They are going around the houses, too frightened to have sorted it by the end of last season so any points deduction will commence next season.
Lucky old Wednesday! That ruling wouldn't have happened to Palace would it!!


Just been announced Wed to be docked 12 points for next season.
Be interesting what is decided about Derby, Villa and Reading who appear to have done something similar to Wednesday.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 31 Jul 20 9.21pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Just been announced Wed to be docked 12 points for next season.
Be interesting what is decided about Derby, Villa and Reading who appear to have done something similar to Wednesday.

Why not this season I wonder?

 

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crvenaeagle Flag 01 Aug 20 2.39am Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

Hang on, didn't we just learn a few weeks ago that should you break financial fair play rules then all you have to do is refuse to cooperate for 5 years until the powers that be can't prosecute you?

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Aug 20 7.22am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

If Wednesday were deducted points this season Charlton would stay up. The Charlton board are considering legal action 3 problems with that:

1. The new season starts in 6 weeks so no time for a decision so even if they win which is doubtful it wont help.

2. The club has no money so is it a good use of what limited funds they do have?

3. The Charlton owners, which ones? Depending on who you talk to you will get a different answer.

My guess this is just virtue signalling.

To be fair the rules around selling the ground are dodgy to say the least. I believe that Wednesday were done not for the sale but for putting the proceeds into the wrong year of accounts and thus avoiding a fair play penalty which hasn't worked.

The timing of the whole process stinks. They were charged in November but the Independent board didn't meet until June / July, why the delay?

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Aug 20 7.32am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If Wednesday were deducted points this season Charlton would stay up. The Charlton board are considering legal action 3 problems with that:

1. The new season starts in 6 weeks so no time for a decision so even if they win which is doubtful it wont help.

2. The club has no money so is it a good use of what limited funds they do have?

3. The Charlton owners, which ones? Depending on who you talk to you will get a different answer.

My guess this is just virtue signalling.

To be fair the rules around selling the ground are dodgy to say the least. I believe that Wednesday were done not for the sale but for putting the proceeds into the wrong year of accounts and thus avoiding a fair play penalty which hasn't worked.

The timing of the whole process stinks. They were charged in November but the Independent board didn't meet until June / July, why the delay?

Isn’t there a similar case being considered against Derby? The whole saga is a cock up by EFL, it’s as if they don’t want Wednesday out of the Championship but not bothered about small clubs like Wigan

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Aug 20 8.25am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Isn’t there a similar case being considered against Derby? The whole saga is a cock up by EFL, it’s as if they don’t want Wednesday out of the Championship but not bothered about small clubs like Wigan

Derby, Reading and some others maybe in trouble however it was how they booked the profit that was the issue so may not be applicable. As for Wigan well they went bust so a slightly different situation but I agree the EFL rules and how and when they apply penalties is a shambles which seems to favour the bigger clubs.

 


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crvenaeagle Flag 04 Aug 20 2.40pm Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

If Wigan were deducted points this season any other teams deducted points should also be with immediate effect.

Does anybody else see the irony in being deducted points in a different season for having put financial reports in a different season?

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Aug 20 3.15pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

If Wigan were deducted points this season any other teams deducted points should also be with immediate effect.

Does anybody else see the irony in being deducted points in a different season for having put financial reports in a different season?

Wigan's was surely the cruellest administration ever. Placed there by owners that had been given EFL approval just weeks beforehand.

And if you consider the whole issue of Administration - who suffers ? The fans, the players, the debtors - while those responsible seem to walk away.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Aug 20 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I have just been looking at the Charlton fan site they are up in arms over Sheffield Wednesday and other clubs who have not been punished this season or are still to be punished.

There is an irony in their outrage that the EFL has done nothing this season, after all their club has had a transfer embargo since January and is on the naughty step since February over the sale / non sale of the club.

If I was the EFL is would penalise Sheffield Wednesday this season and also Charlton.

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 04 Aug 20 3.55pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Isn’t there a similar case being considered against Derby? The whole saga is a cock up by EFL, it’s as if they don’t want Wednesday out of the Championship but not bothered about small clubs like Wigan

The EFL can still appeal.

 

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