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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 20 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by YT

A great post, Badger, which pretty much sums up my story and hence my attitude. Apart from the Irish ancestry, as far as I'm aware.

Look deeper, those feckers get everywhere.

All over my family history with their diddle dee music they are.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Jun 20 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by danielverrells

and still no one gets's it. White people have not been systematically downtrodden and victimised for the past 300 years so no need for apologies. f***ing get it now????

Oh yes, we White people have had a great time.
Silver spoons in the mouth every one of us.

I thought I'd use a nice sweeping statement since you seem to like them.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 19 Jun 20 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Oh yes, we White people have had a great time.
Silver spoons in the mouth every one of us.

I thought I'd use a nice sweeping statement since you seem to like them.

Right about the 300 years though. It’s been a lot longer than that.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Jun 20 5.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Look deeper, those feckers get everywhere.

All over my family history with their diddle dee music they are.

To be sure. I had an Irish GGG Grandmother and my sister in law is half Irish.

I won't be doing St Patrick's Day anytime soon.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 20 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

To be sure. I had an Irish GGG Grandmother and my sister in law is half Irish.

I won't be doing St Patrick's Day anytime soon.

I don't do Paddy's day but I sure have a lot of Northern Irish family.

Riverdance isn't a dance, it's from those buggers who could still float.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2020 6.19pm)

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 Jun 20 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't do Paddy's day but I sure have a lot of Northern Irish family.

Riverdance isn't a dance, it's from those buggers who could still float.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2020 6.19pm)

Paddys. Racist.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 20 7.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Paddys. Racist.

Only after the fourth Guinness.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Jun 20 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Try telling that to my ancestors in Ireland.

Bad stuff happens to everybody you have a choice sit in your own faeces wailing that life is unfair or dust yourself off and get on with it.

Apart from a very few elite the rest of us have to work to get on in life. We have a good educational system if people choose not to avail themselves of that it is their choice. Even if you didn't get on in school the opportunities are still there afterwards you may never be a CEO of a blue chip company but I have met plenty of people who made a good life for them and their families through hard work.

All four of my grandparents were Irish. And when I say Irish, I mean rural, schooled to the age of about 9 illiterate Irish.

They had plenty of stories about the Black and Tans, being refused work/housing/entry to pubs and plenty of racism in general of course.

Still had a picture of the queen in the house, cheered on England when the football was on, grafted arses off to make a living, set a foundation for their kids who themselves still had to work hard to get by and hey ho grandchildren are all professionals, proudly English whilst retaining our heritage living happy healthy lives.

If it’s in your nature to b!tch and whine about your failure in life nothing will ever change for you.


 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 20 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

All I'll say is where was the outcry when these shows etc first came out??

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Jun 20 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.

In other words. You don't like opposing opinions and you like throwing accusations of racism about to close down debate.

I know this great site you might like...

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Jun 2020 10.03pm)

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 20 Jun 20 1.04am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The head teacher is ethnically Indian for most BLM supporters, she is nowhere near black enough to have a valid opinion on race especially when it is in anyway critical


Originally posted by NorthYorkshireEagle

Everybody has a choice - no matter what!!!

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jun 20 4.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.

Being a right wing thinker doesnt make you racist.
Having a different opinion doesnt make you racist.
Not taking the knee doesnt make you racist.
Some black posters on here are right wing thinkers and I doubt they can be labelled racist. your last line of dipping in for amusement sort of belittles the whole subject. Maybe you are more like you mother than you actually think.

 

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