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daven Flag Hailsham 30 Dec 19 1.43pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

To turn this on its head, if we get 4 or 5 new players, who out of our 25 man squad would we get rid of.
A few weeks ago Reidewald would be most peoples choice to go, but not so sure now.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Dec 19 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by daven

To turn this on its head, if we get 4 or 5 new players, who out of our 25 man squad would we get rid of.

We don't have a genuine 25 man first team squad as the last one had a couple of extra goalkeepers from the development squad added just to make up the numbers

 

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 30 Dec 19 3.21pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Is it public knowledge what he is on in his new deal? Surely he is on (far) less now?

Originally posted by cryrst

I wouldn't mind those wages for him.
120k a week is more the figure I'm afraid.

 

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mattteo Flag 30 Dec 19 3.48pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Is it public knowledge what he is on in his new deal? Surely he is on (far) less now?

Oh man, they actually did it? They actually offered Benteke a new contract? I missed that.

 

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daven Flag Hailsham 30 Dec 19 3.53pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

We don't have a genuine 25 man first team squad as the last one had a couple of extra goalkeepers from the development squad added just to make up the numbers

Just checked,I counted 25 players, including 3 keepers Guaita, Henderson and Hennessey.

 

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mattteo Flag 30 Dec 19 3.58pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by daven

To turn this on its head, if we get 4 or 5 new players, who out of our 25 man squad would we get rid of.
A few weeks ago Reidewald would be most peoples choice to go, but not so sure now.

Well, if a decent right back comes in, then Kelly could take his place as central ddfenders (cause he's not a right back)n so there will be Tomkins, Cahill, Sako and Kelly. Dann could go. His contract is up in the summer and he earns a lot too. Did his job at the club, but I see him going to the Championship this winter.

I'd find clubs for Riedewald and Wickham to gain playing time and get back in shape and maybe even get some money out of them eventually (Riedewald alone cost like 9 million). PVA and Schlupp are more than enough for left back position. Riedewald could get playing time at Alkmaar, Vutesse or Feyenoord, while Wickham could go somewhere like Wigan, Lutton Town or Milwall.

I'd ditch James McCarthy too. Lousy transfer by the club. There are already 4 central midfielders: Luka, Kouyate, McArthur and Camarasa and I hate that Kouyate and Luka always play together (they're the same position, Roy!!) Not sure if Camarasa stays either. He's on loan with a 15 million option and it's 90% sure that it won't be activated.

And if some offers for Benteke and even Townsend or Meyer could bring the club 10-15 million, then they'd open up places too. It's not like they do incredibly well.

So plenty of spaces could be cleared, I named about 8.

 

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daven Flag Hailsham 30 Dec 19 4.24pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

The difficulty is that players on big money will be difficult to get rid of, and the same with players not getting minutes/ not in form.
With Benteke, can we afford to let him go for a fraction of the money that we paid for him.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 30 Dec 19 4.26pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by daven

The difficulty is that players on big money will be difficult to get rid of, and the same with players not getting minutes/ not in form.
With Benteke, can we afford to let him go for a fraction of the money that we paid for him.

I'd like Batshuayi.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Dec 19 4.27pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by daven

Just checked,I counted 25 players, including 3 keepers Guaita, Henderson and Hennessey.

It includes 5 keepers as you missed out Joe Tupper and Dion-Curtis Henry who were added to the squad to make it up to 25

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Dec 19 4.49pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by HeathMan

The needs are:-
To stay up
To reduce squad age
To encourage young players to step up.

Garry Cahill is a great addition - does a job for us now - will not be playing in five years time - encourages developing players in their aims to join the squad and have first team game time.

Expect someone around 28/29 or 18/19, positions depend on what Roy hears from club's health experts.

Agreed! The priority is to stay up and this will become increasingly difficult with this ageing squad. We need younger players who can improve rather than more players who are past their best and who can only get slower and less effective.
Cahill was a great addition and plugs a temporary gap but where are the players who will be our back four in 3/4 years time?
We must also avoid panic buys for what is a temporary injury crisis.

 

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YoDougie Flag London 30 Dec 19 5.29pm Send a Private Message to YoDougie Add YoDougie as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Well, if a decent right back comes in, then Kelly could take his place as central ddfenders (cause he's not a right back)n so there will be Tomkins, Cahill, Sako and Kelly. Dann could go. His contract is up in the summer and he earns a lot too. Did his job at the club, but I see him going to the Championship this winter.

I'd find clubs for Riedewald and Wickham to gain playing time and get back in shape and maybe even get some money out of them eventually (Riedewald alone cost like 9 million). PVA and Schlupp are more than enough for left back position. Riedewald could get playing time at Alkmaar, Vutesse or Feyenoord, while Wickham could go somewhere like Wigan, Lutton Town or Milwall.

I'd ditch James McCarthy too. Lousy transfer by the club. There are already 4 central midfielders: Luka, Kouyate, McArthur and Camarasa and I hate that Kouyate and Luka always play together (they're the same position, Roy!!) Not sure if Camarasa stays either. He's on loan with a 15 million option and it's 90% sure that it won't be activated.

And if some offers for Benteke and even Townsend or Meyer could bring the club 10-15 million, then they'd open up places too. It's not like they do incredibly well.

So plenty of spaces could be cleared, I named about 8.


Are you serious with this? According to the above, you'd be happy letting Dann, Camarasa, Riedewald, Wickham, McCarthy, Meyer, Benteke & Townsend go?

This is a thread about needed players to bolster our squad, not chop the squad more. I realise you're not saying get rid of them all in one window, but to be honest other than Wickham (Camarasa is a loan so doesn't count) I think each of those above will still be needed to play a part in our season.

Upgrading the squad is a slow process over a number of windows and that means, these players will be needed for some time still.

Swap Wickham for another striker and upgrade Dann in Summer. We need a full back urgently that could ideally player both sides

 

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mattteo Flag 30 Dec 19 9.02pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Of course I'm serious. I would not get rid of those players and have a formation with 7-8 less players.

What I mean is that better ones could be brought in their place.

For example, what is better,to have Martin Kelly be Ward's backup as right back (a positiom in which he is not very good or fast and where he doesn't move up to cross) and have Scott Dann as 4th center hardly playing ....or.....get a decent right back and move Kelly to 4th center back position (behind Tomkins, Cahill and Sako) and allow Dann to leave to a Championship club where he'd be a starter? With all the respect he deserves, of course, he fully did his duty for the club.

Same for Wickham or Benteke or even Townsend- I mean like for like replacement. But better.

And sending McCarthy and Riedewald elsewhere on loan allows us to get 2 more attacking players in (by pulling Jimmy Macca and Schlupp to the positions of McCarthy and Riedewald, which are their actual positions for which they trained all their life- central midfielder and left back, not attacking options like Roy uses them).

Cause as of now, the attacking options are just about 6: Zaha, Jordan Ayew, Benteke, Townsend, Meyer (more like a central midfielder at Schalke anyway), Schlupp (??), Macca.

There should be like 3 strikers, 4 wingers and an attacking midfielder or second striker a lot more offensive than Macca.

 

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