Fury was never beaten so he is the true champ what is so hard to believe about that and notice how AJ has been ducking him because Hearn knows he could end this AJ run.

Wilder vs Fury is the hottest fight planned otherwise they wouldn't book it if their was no interest plus Wilder knows he beats him he can use the title he is true champ.

You are just another typical bloke who dont have a clue about boxing it's so laughable people that have never had anything to do with the game how they really dont have a clue.

Edited by grumpymort (24 Sep 2018 5.54pm)

It all points to substances. No doubt Holyfield was a very good fighter but he never excited me. Just too workmanlike for my tastes. The idea of who is best is rather flawed in itself. If two boxers fought 10 times you might get a variety of results. Some boxers have their nemesis or they just go off the boil.
Ali was never as good after the suspension even though his most memorable fights were in that era. Tyson had similar problems and Lewis was lazy. Riddick Bowe had great potential but had no discipline. These guys are human beings in the end.

On Fury. He was a very useful boxer a few years ago but once again, his demons got the better of him. His performance against Klitschko was impressive albeit dull but the champ was looking old and Tyson all of a sudden had this half decent body shape. Hmmm! It was that meat you know.

It all points to substances. No doubt Holyfield was a very good fighter but he never excited me. Just too workmanlike for my tastes. The idea of who is best is rather flawed in itself. If two boxers fought 10 times you might get a variety of results. Some boxers have their nemesis or they just go off the boil.
Ali was never as good after the suspension even though his most memorable fights were in that era. Tyson had similar problems and Lewis was lazy. Riddick Bowe had great potential but had no discipline. These guys are human beings in the end.

On Fury. He was a very useful boxer a few years ago but once again, his demons got the better of him. His performance against Klitschko was impressive albeit dull but the champ was looking old and Tyson all of a sudden had this half decent body shape. Hmmm! It was that meat you know.

Not saying I didn't rate Mike Tyson, the debate is about who would win in a match up and you seem to rate Tyson as the best of the best which is very debatable especially boxers from different eras. But going on facts alone, Tyson never proved he could go the distance, he only had one tactic, to bludgeon his opponent early. The facts support this

As for Lennox Lewis, yes he was a great boxer but a bit chinny as when he lost to McCall and Rahman, he never recovered from good shots, Joshua hasn't lost and he did get back up from a great punch from Klitschko to recover and win.

I think Lewis v Joshua is hard to call, yes Lewis is a better boxer and beat better opponents but could he take a power shot from Joshua like that upper cut v Klitschko? I don't think so

The 'Brown bomber' was a favourite of my father and I recall him mentioning his fights with Jersey Joe Walcott and his last fight which was against Rocky Marciano.

My father really liked his boxing - I remember he said he went to the White City to see Don Cockell but Cockell was defeated early in the fight.Don't know his opponent - I must have been told but the years have dimmed the memory !
Edited by Willo (25 Sep 2018 5.37pm)

I think Tyson knocks out Lewis on a good day but Lewis could win if he uses his jab and leans on Tyson. Either fighter could beat the other at their peak I would think. Tyson knocks out Ali after the suspension because if Smokin' Joe could nail him then Tyson surely could. The question here is could the younger Ali dance for 12 rounds and avoid a peak Tyson. Larry Holmes got smashed but he was getting old. Maybe Holmes or Ali could use their brains and speed to outwit the young Tyson in their prime but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm sorry but AJ is not ready to be considered with that elite company just yet. He just isn't a natural boxer and looks average too often. AJ could catch Lewis with a good shot but that goes for any heavyweight with a punch. Let's re evaluate him again when he has had more fights.
The biggest plus for most modern heavyweights is their size but that said, they tire quickly and throw a lot fewer punches than the old guys. Lewis was big and clever. He would be my No.1 on a good day. Ali would be the best Heavyweight boxer but had no knockout punch. Joe Louis and Jack Johnson deserve a mention but that was a long time ago and not easy to compare.