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robdave2k 26 Jul 18 7.49pm | |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
Nice of Gary to wade in on this political matter. Maybe he could follow up with his feelings on marketed tax avoidance schemes and depriving the Treasury of income. It’s people like him who contributed to the vote out campaign and the likes of Trump being elected. Nothing worse than being told what is right by hypocrites. And for the record he’s right - it is a total pig’s arse all round. But I wouldn’t call him having the moral high ground here.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.52pm | |
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Originally posted by europalace
Let's take your face lift comparison. In terms of brexit here it is: 1) People are asked to vote if they want to have a faclift or not - most say yes based on the marketing from 2 surgeons, Dr Farage & Dr Johnson Now, I made it kind of primary school level so it can be understood by the many brexiteers on here.
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europalace Europe 26 Jul 18 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Er, is this not personal? What a load of crap. The vote on Europe wss intended to be a one off vote. Let me ask you a simple question. If we had another referendum and Remain lost again, would you want a third? The big difference is that when people voted for the referendum in 2016, they had no idea what an exit from the EU would look like. They imagined it but didn't know anything like the information they have now. Further more, after October when big decisions will be made by both the EU and UK on the real direction of the negotiations, British citizens will be in a far, far more informed position to make such a decision. Virtually no one even contemplated what the NI issues would be in 2016 and Farage & Johnson sneakily avoided that hot potato. Now people understand the nuances of that issue and also from the EU's perspective. So, regularly quoting 'how many referendums do we need' is just spreading spurious FUD. So, to answer your question, only 1 referendum is needed and that's the one AFTER people have a good idea of the issues involved through the negotiations of BOTH parties, both the UK & EU. That time is soon approaching. The one that occurred in 2016 should simply be put down to an administrative error and lacking in any concrete information for the electorate to make any kind of informed decision. Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.54pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.54pm | |
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Originally posted by europalace
Let's take your face lift comparison. In terms of brexit here it is: 1) People are asked to vote if they want to have a faclift or not - most say yes based on the marketing from 2 surgeons, Dr Farage & Dr Johnson Now, I made it kind of primary school level so it can be understood by the many brexiteers on here. ps You don't appear to actually live in the UK..why? Has this got anything to do with your views?
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europalace Europe 26 Jul 18 7.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
ps You don't appear to actually live in the UK..why? Has this got anything to do with your views?
Maybe thise that have moved from the UK have a bit more life and varied cultural knowedge than those who have not.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jul 18 7.56pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This genuinely made me laugh out loud, you sadistic tit Quite true though the more this country turns into bandit country. Although you’re out of it in Chelmsford isn’t it, so you’ll be alright.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jul 18 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Another foreign import.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by europalace
The big difference is that when people voted for the referendum in 2016, they had no idea what an exit from the EU would look like. They imagined it but didn't know anything like the information they have now. Further more, after October when big decisions will be made by both the EU and UK on the real direction of the negotiations, British citizens will be in a far, far more informed position to make such a decision. Virtually no one even contemplated what the NI issues would be in 2016 and Farage & Johnson sneakily avoided that hot potato. Now people understand the nuances of that issue and also from the EU's perspective. So, regularly quoting 'how many referendums do we need' is just spreading spurious FUD. So, to answer your question, only 1 referendum is needed and that's the one AFTER people have a good idea of the issues involved through the negotiations of BOTH parties, both the UK & EU. That time is soon approaching. The one that occurred in 2016 should simply be put down to an administrative error and lacking in any concrete information for the electorate to make any kind of informed decision. Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.54pm) Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Jul 18 8.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU? I can’t even be bothered to read his posts any more but I agree with what you’ve said and anything else.
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europalace Europe 26 Jul 18 8.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU?
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coulsdoneagle London 26 Jul 18 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A referendum is a one off event whereas governments have a maximum term. A referendum is also not a binding decision so the government have no obligation to follow through with Brexit. Brexit is a turning in to a f***ing disaster, whatever you voted back then we can all agree on that. People claiming others are sore losers because they want to avoid the catastrophic economic fallout that seems to be imminent is farcical. Sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming Brexit means Brexit and let’s crack on despite the consequences is short sighted and naive. Not everyone voted for the same kind of Brexit, claiming people knew what they voted for is b*llolcks, because we still have no f*cking clue what Brexit we are going to get. If a hard border between ROI and NI is going to happen, that is reason enough to stop Brexit.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 18 8.32pm | |
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Originally posted by europalace
Maybe thise that have moved from the UK have a bit more life and varied cultural knowedge than those who have not.
I have a life thank you and I suspect my cultural knowledge is on a par with you if not better. I dont think you will find I have commented on Trump but if I must, I dont like him or his policies but respect that he won a democratic election....a bit like the referendum
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