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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 26 Jul 18 7.49pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Nice of Gary to wade in on this political matter.

Maybe he could follow up with his feelings on marketed tax avoidance schemes and depriving the Treasury of income.

It’s people like him who contributed to the vote out campaign and the likes of Trump being elected. Nothing worse than being told what is right by hypocrites.

And for the record he’s right - it is a total pig’s arse all round. But I wouldn’t call him having the moral high ground here.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by europalace


Wow, you keep failing to understand the most simplest of concepts don't you?

Let's take your face lift comparison. In terms of brexit here it is:

1) People are asked to vote if they want to have a faclift or not - most say yes based on the marketing from 2 surgeons, Dr Farage & Dr Johnson
2) in the coming months, they ask questions and do their own research on what the procedure entails
3) They realise that the procedure is horrific and has a very high probablity of leaving them much more ugly than they are already
4) Before the date for the operation, they vote again to cancel the appointment after realising that after their research, procedures were uncovered that they were never told about before they voted. They realised their mistake and were lied to about the procedure in the first place because the surgeons were in it just to fill their pockets with cash.
5) Dr Farage & Dr Johnson are struck off for deceiving potential patients and fraud.

Now, I made it kind of primary school level so it can be understood by the many brexiteers on here.



I think this comment sums up the remain campaign. Anyone who voted leave is thick. Well I am not and have probably seen a lot more of the consequences of EU membership than you have. Unfortunately democracy seems to have died in this country.

 

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europalace Flag Europe 26 Jul 18 7.53pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Er, is this not personal?

What a load of crap.

The vote on Europe wss intended to be a one off vote.
If you had 10 more referendums, there would still be 10more lots of lies and misrepresentation from both sides. That's what happens in politics for those too stupid to realise.
.

Let me ask you a simple question.

If we had another referendum and Remain lost again, would you want a third?

The big difference is that when people voted for the referendum in 2016, they had no idea what an exit from the EU would look like. They imagined it but didn't know anything like the information they have now. Further more, after October when big decisions will be made by both the EU and UK on the real direction of the negotiations, British citizens will be in a far, far more informed position to make such a decision. Virtually no one even contemplated what the NI issues would be in 2016 and Farage & Johnson sneakily avoided that hot potato. Now people understand the nuances of that issue and also from the EU's perspective. So, regularly quoting 'how many referendums do we need' is just spreading spurious FUD.

So, to answer your question, only 1 referendum is needed and that's the one AFTER people have a good idea of the issues involved through the negotiations of BOTH parties, both the UK & EU. That time is soon approaching. The one that occurred in 2016 should simply be put down to an administrative error and lacking in any concrete information for the electorate to make any kind of informed decision.

Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.54pm)

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.54pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by europalace


Wow, you keep failing to understand the most simplest of concepts don't you?

Let's take your face lift comparison. In terms of brexit here it is:

1) People are asked to vote if they want to have a faclift or not - most say yes based on the marketing from 2 surgeons, Dr Farage & Dr Johnson
2) in the coming months, they ask questions and do their own research on what the procedure entails
3) They realise that the procedure is horrific and has a very high probablity of leaving them much more ugly than they are already
4) Before the date for the operation, they vote again to cancel the appointment after realising that after their research, procedures were uncovered that they were never told about before they voted. They realised their mistake and were lied to about the procedure in the first place because the surgeons were in it just to fill their pockets with cash.
5) Dr Farage & Dr Johnson are struck off for deceiving potential patients and fraud.

Now, I made it kind of primary school level so it can be understood by the many brexiteers on here.


ps You don't appear to actually live in the UK..why? Has this got anything to do with your views?

 

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europalace Flag Europe 26 Jul 18 7.56pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

ps You don't appear to actually live in the UK..why? Has this got anything to do with your views?


So what? Plenty of topics discussed on these forums that are news in other countries. What about Trump? Most on here don't live in the US and yet comment on those subjects. Many who don't live in the UK comment on UK issues, so what? What's that got anything to do with you?

Maybe thise that have moved from the UK have a bit more life and varied cultural knowedge than those who have not.


Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.57pm)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 18 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This genuinely made me laugh out loud, you sadistic tit

Quite true though the more this country turns into bandit country. Although you’re out of it in Chelmsford isn’t it, so you’ll be alright.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 18 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman


I think this comment sums up the remain campaign. Anyone who voted leave is thick. Well I am not and have probably seen a lot more of the consequences of EU membership than you have. Unfortunately democracy seems to have died in this country.

Another foreign import.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 18 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

The big difference is that when people voted for the referendum in 2016, they had no idea what an exit from the EU would look like. They imagined it but didn't know anything like the information they have now. Further more, after October when big decisions will be made by both the EU and UK on the real direction of the negotiations, British citizens will be in a far, far more informed position to make such a decision. Virtually no one even contemplated what the NI issues would be in 2016 and Farage & Johnson sneakily avoided that hot potato. Now people understand the nuances of that issue and also from the EU's perspective. So, regularly quoting 'how many referendums do we need' is just spreading spurious FUD.

So, to answer your question, only 1 referendum is needed and that's the one AFTER people have a good idea of the issues involved through the negotiations of BOTH parties, both the UK & EU. That time is soon approaching. The one that occurred in 2016 should simply be put down to an administrative error and lacking in any concrete information for the electorate to make any kind of informed decision.

Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.54pm)

Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU?
I think what you mean is only 1 referendum is needed once the remain campaign win.
If you follow opinion polls in the UK...leave are still ahead.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jul 18 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU?
I think what you mean is only 1 referendum is needed once the remain campaign win.
If you follow opinion polls in the UK...leave are still ahead.

I can’t even be bothered to read his posts any more but I agree with what you’ve said and anything else.

 


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europalace Flag Europe 26 Jul 18 8.17pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Sorry but you are talking absolute b*****ks. I knew exactly what I was voting for. How do you think the Irish border worked before both countries joined the EU?
I think what you mean is only 1 referendum is needed once the remain campaign win.
If you follow opinion polls in the UK...leave are still ahead.


Well, using expletives explains very much. Thanks.

 

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coulsdoneagle Flag London 26 Jul 18 8.26pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A referendum is a one off event whereas governments have a maximum term.
The statement has no relevance.

A referendum is also not a binding decision so the government have no obligation to follow through with Brexit.

Brexit is a turning in to a f***ing disaster, whatever you voted back then we can all agree on that.

People claiming others are sore losers because they want to avoid the catastrophic economic fallout that seems to be imminent is farcical.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming Brexit means Brexit and let’s crack on despite the consequences is short sighted and naive.

Not everyone voted for the same kind of Brexit, claiming people knew what they voted for is b*llolcks, because we still have no f*cking clue what Brexit we are going to get. If a hard border between ROI and NI is going to happen, that is reason enough to stop Brexit.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 18 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by europalace


So what? Plenty of topics discussed on these forums that are news in other countries. What about Trump? Most on here don't live in the US and yet comment on those subjects. Many who don't live in the UK comment on UK issues, so what? What's that got anything to do with you?

Maybe thise that have moved from the UK have a bit more life and varied cultural knowedge than those who have not.


Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.57pm)

I have a life thank you and I suspect my cultural knowledge is on a par with you if not better. I dont think you will find I have commented on Trump but if I must, I dont like him or his policies but respect that he won a democratic election....a bit like the referendum

 

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