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 steeleye20  Croydon 16 Apr 18 5.25am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Dictator? Why don't you understand what the word 'elected' means? We live in a representative democracy. You abuse the word dictator. Again, answer the question. Who are this extra layer of power accountable to? Are you going to call for another layer of accountability on top of them when you don't like their decisions as well? A new War Act as suggested will make the PM need parliament approval, they are voted for don't see the problem.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Apr 18 5.58am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
A new War Act as suggested will make the PM need parliament approval, they are voted for don't see the problem.
Well, that's not an extra layer that's using an existing one. Also we haven't gone to war. I don't agree with constraining a PM in this way. Time can be a factor here. For example responding to nuclear or other attack. However, if a democracy voted for a change like that I would accept it....while disagreeing with the logic.
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Pussay Patrol  16 Apr 18 7.21am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is what Russia are saying unsurprisingly. In actual fact the air strikes met international laws for military action on humanitarian grounds and they were launched to avert a "humanitarian catastrophe". Oh yes, the way to be more humanitarian is to bomb them to f*** The chemical attack fed to us last week is very questionable, they're saying we did it so who's right? With the recent nerve agent attack in Salisbury and Putin flexing his muscles, they need public support in the West to make him look the bad guy, it's just a show to front up to Putin, they don't give a monkeys toss about Syria
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| Stirlingsays 16 Apr 18 7.31am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Oh yes, the way to be more humanitarian is to bomb them to f*** The chemical attack fed to us last week is very questionable, they're saying we did it so who's right? With the recent nerve agent attack in Salisbury and Putin flexing his muscles, they need public support in the West to make him look the bad guy, it's just a show to front up to Putin, they don't give a monkeys toss about Syria Not true. The right put forward a vote for action on Syria years ago....you know, when something could have been done about it...before Russia and Iran were propping Assad up. The left voted against it along with a minority of right votes....that was all it needed for inaction. It's your side who got us here.....non intervention has consequences too.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 16 Apr 18 7.36am |
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I am disappointed that we got involved. It is difficult to justify going in whilst ignoring the Yemen. However because laughably Saudi Arabia is our ally we close our eyes to what is going on there. The strike was purely political. The Allies told the Syrians it was coming so they had days to move people and equipment as evidenced by the lack of fatalities. We just hit empty buildings so what was the point.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 Apr 18 7.39am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Oh yes, the way to be more humanitarian is to bomb them to f*** The chemical attack fed to us last week is very questionable, they're saying we did it so who's right? With the recent nerve agent attack in Salisbury and Putin flexing his muscles, they need public support in the West to make him look the bad guy, it's just a show to front up to Putin, they don't give a monkeys toss about Syria I think you are right it was illegal and could come back to haunt the three leaders.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Apr 18 7.44am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I am disappointed that we got involved. It is difficult to justify going in whilst ignoring the Yemen. However because laughably Saudi Arabia is our ally we close our eyes to what is going on there. The strike was purely political. The Allies told the Syrians it was coming so they had days to move people and equipment as evidenced by the lack of fatalities. We just hit empty buildings so what was the point.
Yemen holds no strategic interest for us. Syria does hold strategic interest.....It's called Israel and avoiding WW3. Saudi Arabia are a bulwark against Iran. It is in our interest to keep Syria split....Assad in the south and the Kurds in the north. The point to hitting these buildings....which I agree were a giant virtue signal was also to impact our wiliness to defend western interests in the region......we already showed that in defending the Kurds against attack a few months ago where Russian mercenaries died from air attack.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 Apr 18 7.45am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I am disappointed that we got involved. It is difficult to justify going in whilst ignoring the Yemen. However because laughably Saudi Arabia is our ally we close our eyes to what is going on there. The strike was purely political. The Allies told the Syrians it was coming so they had days to move people and equipment as evidenced by the lack of fatalities. We just hit empty buildings so what was the point.
I do agree, when will they ever learn.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Apr 18 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I do agree, when will they ever learn. I think we know where your allegiances lie Steeleye.
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Darwin Eagle  Darwin 16 Apr 18 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
A very interesting video of an independent Canadian journalist, talking about Syria at the United Nations. She talks about, amongst other things, the White Helmets, which she claims have been funded to the tune of 0m by the UK and US (2016). This is the group that Russia have claimed they have irrefutable evidence that between the 3rd and the 6th of this month, we (the UK) were pressuring to use chemical weapons. Would be interesting to see the evidence, if they really do have it. Edited by Rubin (14 Apr 2018 8.42am) ^ This. Love Eva Bartlett. One of the very few proper independent, investigative journalists who's actually there amongst the mayhem, not just parroting official and deceitful narratives like the MSM. Also love her frank address to the UN, also on youtube. Proper heroine.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Apr 18 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Darwin Eagle
^ This. Love Eva Bartlett. One of the very few proper independent, investigative journalists who's actually there amongst the mayhem, not just parroting official and deceitful narratives like the MSM. Also love her frank address to the UN, also on youtube. Proper heroine. The woman you love says the Syrian people want Assad as their ruler and don't blame him and cites the 2014 election as evidence.....talk about a separation from reality. She damns the corporate media reporting in Syria yet she has nothing but hearsay herself for all of her claims. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Apr 2018 12.57pm)
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jeeagles  16 Apr 18 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Oh yes, the way to be more humanitarian is to bomb them to f*** The chemical attack fed to us last week is very questionable, they're saying we did it so who's right? With the recent nerve agent attack in Salisbury and Putin flexing his muscles, they need public support in the West to make him look the bad guy, it's just a show to front up to Putin, they don't give a monkeys toss about Syria The members of Corbyn's cult aren't interested in humanity. They aren't even interested in getting into government. They just want a communist Labour party at all costs. The anti Iraq war movement was the only way they could attack Tony Blair - by picking up on a technicality dispite the fact the Sadam Hussain was a tirant who had used chemicals weapons and was responsible for the torture an murder of his own people. The loony lefies' predicessor to Corbyn, George Galloway even went to meet Sadam to praise him. Meanwhile, Corbyn happily took his seat in the Labour government, representing them and picking up a pay check despite the fact he said he was opposed to everything they stood for. The Corbyn cult is trying to do the same thing again. It's not to protect the people of Syria, it's just part of their fashionable agenda to denounce Trump and the Tories. Russia has started two wars on the boarders of Europe that have been going on for years. They are scared of having EU democracy reach their boarders and want control of the Ukraine and Syrian governments. It's previously done the same with Afghanistan and Georgia. Plus there's a proxy war going on with the west. Corbyn's idea that he can play the stop the war card again is idiotic. It negates the fact that war is already raging and the people go Syria and Ukraine have already had "the f*** bombed out of them" to use your words. Corbyn either completely ignorant of the fact that Russia is completely corrupt. Money and power is far more important than people's lives. Or he is just willfully ignoring it. Either way, he's unfit to be a politician.
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