That was a hard hitting documentary. Essentially depressing but not completely for all the obvious, usual reasons that are being debated on here.

It's when you get reminded of s*** like this that you realise it's far more complex than simply 'get a proper job' / 'I'd like to give him a good hiding' / 'work hard and you'll be fine' etc.

The kid given a chance to try out for the (admittedly elitist) Williams Young Driver Program was a good example, and a sobering one at that.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Why spend that amount of money on a watch in the first place, just too look at what time of day it is or the date.

It's unfortunate that he's been robbed don't get me wrong i would'nt wish it on my worst enemy, but he's just showing off in front of his fellow rich friends just to fit in.

It's just a fact that him and his rich friends have got more money than sense at the end of the day, ask yourself would you spend that amount of money on a watch in the first place.

I no i would'nt for one but that's me.

Thing is although he was impressively excellent at racing it isn't a realistic career aim for most born out of the top 1%. There are jobs out there for all if you're willing to do them. Some are unfairly paid but they don't have to stay in that job for ever. I know a couple of damn talented drivers who I reckon would be in that league but instead they're doing well for themselves in manual jobs starting from the bottom. The way one of them can weave in and out of traffic on a busy M25 at top speed I've never seen anything like it and I've seen a lot of racing in the flesh.

These people are given schooling and college up to 18. Life is tough and starts out sh1t for some but you do have a chance. Of course if you're mugging people at 15+ then you're binning that chance.

COYP

True. That kind of thing would normally be worn in Knightsbridge, LA, the Swiss mountains or a dictator or oil barons house. In fornton eef blud isn't again necessary. He may start driving a less noticeable car as well although knowing of Simon and the way he refused to hand the watch over before the gun was pushed closer into his undoubtedly brave face I doubt it.

COYP

At least no one would nick that.

Yeah, again, didn't say it was excusable anywhere? My point regarding the 'why' (of course there's always a why to everything, not sure that needed to be said) is really around the cause and effect, which in my opinion is more important than focusing on the individuals, at least it is if you want to try to appreciate the scale of the problem and its causes. And therefore how to fix it.

There are a lot of things that could be done to improve social mobility and opportunity and by that extension social cohesion, that would go some way to reducing the many circumstances that make it easier/inevitable for these kind of people to end up stealing a watch from a wealthy orange man and his old dad.

It wouldn't eliminate it, and it doesn't excuse any action (not that I said it did) but simply passing these things off as 'could do better' / 'vermin' etc. while technically true isn't really focusing on the bigger picture. It's all to easy to get lost in the weeds.

Closing youth clubs across the country is just one small example. Being viewed as worthless by society is another. Poverty, stigma and rejection being a social norm another. And on and on

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.