Searching for a relevant thread I settled on this one. Recently the very useful Nextdoor app has had people objecting to new builds of flats south of the Croydon borough, and they’re starting to get some of these turned down, with the help of the Tory MP Chris Philp.

Now what I’ve noticed is in the comments sections is people tend to blame the birth rate, and I expect feel uncomfortable stating the high immigration every year for 2 decades. Plus there is a contradiction here. If there is a lower/falling birth rate then you will struggle to support the ageing population. 4 retired people per 10 working people is a huge concern.

I found this article on the issues of births. There is no easy answer but the one I’m witnessing isn’t a solution. It just makes the issue longer lasting. But it does make me laugh when the environmentally concerned London professionals opt to not have kids when a bus stop or two away people couldn’t care less about how many they have or the issues, costs or consequences, which goes on and on.

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Of course the house building policies have been worse than inadequate for 30 years, but demand as well as supply is a factor. In an ideal world you could instantly scoop up all the very large and huge properties and replace them with the normal suburban sized houses and smaller gardens, but until something like that changes we’ll have more and more 1-2 person dwellings, having children in the private housing sector a luxury for people not brainwashed into thinking they shouldn’t to change the world while others think nothing of it and come to Britain and have more and more children.

What’s even more of a con is the younger generation professionals who think they’re doing the right thing are being charged a ridiculous price for small flats on a corner on a main road or busy road. Then there’s the town centres like Croydon where cheaper flats on dozens of floors are being crammed in because of issues in question. I don’t suppose there’s any answer to it because nobody in power cares or there’s always enough people who don’t care whatever their interest, or there’s quick money to be made.

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The two biggest economies in the world, by a huge distance, are China and America...

It also affects immigrants already here and arriving here. They may not think so but it does and will. Ethnic minorities might think that a higher percentage of non white people will benefit them, which I expect it might do to an extent, but ability and employability is really what it comes down to. But like you say, it goes on and on to address the issues and the issues it causes with no long term solution. I think we can thank Tony Bliar for starting a generation of unskilled young people and his illogical idea on how everyone should live. He still thinks he was right.

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Reading today that the ONS experts saying that although deaths will exceed births, the UK population will still rise from 67.1 in mid 2020 to 69.2 million by mid 2030.

The 3.2% rise (2.2m) is forecast to be down to continued immigration. Pretty sure I won't be around to see it, but good old Blighty is going to look and behave very differently in 2030.

It's already difficult to recognise our Country when we watch TV these days. Almost unrecognisable by then methinks.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Parts of Britain, and England, will be very different to other parts, more so than before in some ways. Another noticeable thing recently is the lack of road etiquette/rudeness spreading out from built up areas. Not from everyone but you do notice some who think everyone is an enemy and a f*** you attitude that is very unnecessary anywhere, especially in calmer areas.

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Depends who you are doesn’t it? All very well saying a country is rich. What about you? If you’re poor or have little opportunity or the opportunities are disappearing, what good is that?

I think I’d make an accurate guess that China’s wealth is distributed among a smaller percentage than America’s. Well actually the GDP per capita kind of hints that it might be, but I would have guessed that anyway. Pretty obvious hey?

Also I think what people term as ‘wealthy’ might be changing, at the same time as the ‘white privilege’ term cropped up. Many more people consider someone in an average house in an average area as wealthy now. You can now see beggars in towns you never expected to. But it’s all progress.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jan 2022 5.11pm)

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