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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Oct 17 5.03pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

you conveniently forgot BSE which the UK infected the rest of Europe with. Also last week a massive amount of chicken was recalled because it was out of date and relabelled again for sale. So what has 'labelling' really achieved? A whole list of supermarket chains have been affected by the same processing plant who supply from Waitrose/M&S to Lidl. Just shows how gullible people are buying 'premium' products when in fact the are the same as sold in low cost outlets.

You mean like you do in Malta as almost most of your food is imported from countries like the UK. Your national dish "Maltese stewed rabbit (fenek)" and I would imagine nearly all your rabbits are imported as there aint many running around. You even kill off all the birds in your annual shooting season which Malta refuses to abolish. You slag the UK off about food without actually thinking or knowing that most of your food is from the UK. You really do talk a load of cr@p and I wonder why you do come out with all of this verbal diarrhoea most of the time I really do. But being a local fisherman as you seem to be by your boasts of a boat all the time does not really let you keep up to date on educational matters.

Edited by susmik (05 Oct 2017 5.05pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 17 6.08pm

Originally posted by Stuk

The point was that EU labelling laws still enable contaminated products to get in the food chain.

When foot and mouth broke out in 2007 we didn't carry on and process the livestock and relabel it as "produced using x, y or z from the EU" we banned all movement of it and destroyed those infected by it.

Salmonella was the mid 80s, the EU egg contamination is still going on. [Link]

My point was that cock(eral) ups occur all over.

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 05 Oct 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

My point was that cock(eral) ups occur all over.

They do, but someone tried to make the point that we should be thankful for EU food labelling regulations when ours are far better.

In regards to salmonella in eggs, we admitted there was a problem in the 80s to the point that the danger was actually over-exaggerated. A UK lion branded egg today has virtually no chance of having salmonella whereas it's still rife across most of the EU.

The same with BSE, to bring up the point someone else tried to make, as there were far more cases of it in France than in Britain. We admitted it and were subject to an EU export ban for 10 years (illegally much longer in France) while they covered their cases up and carried on as normal.

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 05 Oct 17 8.37pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

They do, but someone tried to make the point that we should be thankful for EU food labelling regulations when ours are far better.

In regards to salmonella in eggs, we admitted there was a problem in the 80s to the point that the danger was actually over-exaggerated. A UK lion branded egg today has virtually no chance of having salmonella whereas it's still rife across most of the EU.

The same with BSE, to bring up the point someone else tried to make, as there were far more cases of it in France than in Britain. We admitted it and were subject to an EU export ban for 10 years (illegally much longer in France) while they covered their cases up and carried on as normal.

No I refuse to believe that the French would only look out for themselves.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 06 Oct 17 3.42pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

No I refuse to believe that the French would only look out for themselves.

Shocking isn't it...

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Oct 17 5.16pm

Originally posted by Stuk

They do, but someone tried to make the point that we should be thankful for EU food labelling regulations when ours are far better.

In regards to salmonella in eggs, we admitted there was a problem in the 80s to the point that the danger was actually over-eggxaggerated. A UK lion branded egg today has virtually no chance of having salmonella whereas it's still rife across most of the EU.

The same with BSE, to bring up the point someone else tried to make, as there were far more cases of it in France than in Britain. We admitted it and were subject to an EU export ban for 10 years (illegally much longer in France) while they covered their cases up and carried on as normal.

Edited for s***e pun

 

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Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 06 Oct 17 6.22pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Ah of course, us silly naive youngsters with our pesky degrees, voting against the wise and definitely not foolishly nostalgic elders. How dare we!

Is it not possible that the young are fully aware of the EU, and what it stands for- but rather than being afraid, and wanting to go hide under a rock, muttering about WW2, would like to be part of something larger? Something better than an insignificant island nation, largely irrelevant on the world stage?

Out of genuine interest- British forces have served as part of UN peacekeeping forces. Do you object to this in the same way you do to an 'EU army'?

You'd have to be fairly mature to know what life was like pre EU. In some respects it was a lot easier being in control of our own destiny and with a distinct identity. Globalisation has blurred some of that and so has the fact that we are barely in control of our own assets anymore but I for one, do miss it.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Oct 17 10.45am

Originally posted by Stuk

They do, but someone tried to make the point that we should be thankful for EU food labelling regulations when ours are far better.

In regards to salmonella in eggs, we admitted there was a problem in the 80s to the point that the danger was actually over-exaggerated. A UK lion branded egg today has virtually no chance of having salmonella whereas it's still rife across most of the EU.

The same with BSE, to bring up the point someone else tried to make, as there were far more cases of it in France than in Britain. We admitted it and were subject to an EU export ban for 10 years (illegally much longer in France) while they covered their cases up and carried on as normal.

Cost Edwina Currey her job if I remember. As for vCJD in beef, the government of the UK had known about the risk since the early 80s and didn't act for over a decade. There is still a major risk that that a large percentage of the population could suffer from CJD as a result if it turns out that vjcd is a mutation seen due to high rates of infection. Hopefully not the case

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 07 Oct 17 2.14pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Cost Edwina Currey her job if I remember. As for vCJD in beef, the government of the UK had known about the risk since the early 80s and didn't act for over a decade. There is still a major risk that that a large percentage of the population could suffer from CJD as a result if it turns out that vjcd is a mutation seen due to high rates of infection. Hopefully not the case

Yep, she resigned.

You don't get vCJD in beef, you get it in humans. The B in BSE stands for Bovine and the first death from it in cattle wasn't identified until 1986 but the government were not guilty of doing nothing for a decade. Many practices that were believed to cause it were changed and outlawed in that time. It wasn't banned for a decade because the first death in humans didn't occur until 1995.

There is still a risk people could be infected as it is long incubating. But meh, steak for dinner.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 07 Oct 17 5.30pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Yep, she resigned.

You don't get vCJD in beef, you get it in humans. The B in BSE stands for Bovine and the first death from it in cattle wasn't identified until 1986 but the government were not guilty of doing nothing for a decade. Many practices that were believed to cause it were changed and outlawed in that time. It wasn't banned for a decade because the first death in humans didn't occur until 1995.

There is still a risk people could be infected as it is long incubating. But meh, steak for dinner.

....and that is why we have EU army concerns.

 


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