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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 17 6.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
However, you cannot deny how I feel and look, nor how my wife feels and looks, on a vegetarian diet. The only downside to it is people like you who feel the need to issue a pre-buttle to vegetarianism despite the fact that I say nothing about it unless asked first. You're killing yourself with meat, but you seem ok with it and that's none of my business. The global meat industry is the largest single contributor to climate change though, and that's everyone's business, even those who don't think it's real. We are killing ourselves by breathing the air. Do you smoke? Drink alcohol? Eat rice? Have electrical equipment in your home? Drive your car on busy roads? Live near a busy road or electrical pylons? Have a family history of disease? Go out in the Sun? Have a stressful job? All of those things can be potentiallly harmful to your health and many more. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Sep 2017 6.03pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 Sep 17 6.07pm | |
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Think the argument is is that our bodies aren't actually adapted properly for eating red meat and that it puts unnatural stresses on it when consumed. Most get away with it but plenty don't. Isn't bowel cancer and red meat quite strongly linked?
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 17 6.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Think the argument is is that our bodies aren't actually adapted properly for eating red meat and that it puts unnatural stresses on it when consumed. Most get away with it but plenty don't. Isn't bowel cancer and red meat quite strongly linked? Cured meats perhaps. The problem is how you do proper science on living populations.I am hugely sceptical about the validity of the data it produces.
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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 17 6.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Think the argument is is that our bodies aren't actually adapted properly for eating red meat and that it puts unnatural stresses on it when consumed. Most get away with it but plenty don't. Isn't bowel cancer and red meat quite strongly linked? Any study of our teeth shows that we are adapted to eat various foods, meat included. As for what is best to eat for long term health...that is a different question. .Anybody with even a rudimentary knowledge knows that human beings aren't meant to live to 70 within its natural environments. Our bodies weren't intended for long term use. The natural term of the human being in nature isn't that long at all. There's a biological reason that puberty starts very early. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2017 6.15pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 05 Sep 17 6.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Any study of our teeth shows that we are adapted to eat various foods, meat included. As for what is best to eat for long term health...that is a different question. .Anybody with even a rudimentary knowledge knows that human beings aren't meant to live to 70 within its natural environments. Our bodies weren't intended for long term use. The natural term of the human being in nature isn't that long at all. There's a biological reason that puberty starts very early. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2017 6.15pm) It's not "stupid" as you so eloquently put it. Care to explain then why countries with high seafood intake and not much red meat consumption have significantly less cancers of the digestive tract and less heart disease?
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 17 6.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's not "stupid" as you so eloquently put it. Care to explain then why countries with high seafood intake and not much red meat consumption have significantly less cancers of the digestive tract and less heart disease? Maybe they just eat less food. I'm sure that over consumption of red meat is an issue but the same can probably be said of carbohydrate.
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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 17 7.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's not "stupid" as you so eloquently put it. Care to explain then why countries with high seafood intake and not much red meat consumption have significantly less cancers of the digestive tract and less heart disease? God you are embarrassing Kermit, you didn't even read past the first line of the post. You obviously need to eat more seafood to help with your brain.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Sep 17 8.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Yes, it's your choice to eat meat. But it's not your choice to deny the science that says, for example, that the causal link between eating meat and getting cancer is statistically as strong as the causal link between smoking and getting cancer. It's scientifically proven so, until you can prove otherwise, it's a fact. From a Government Health Paper: It looks like BOTH sides of the coin are different does it not! Lets all have a nice juicy Steak shall we?
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Ray in Houston Houston 05 Sep 17 8.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Means nothing. 3% of a chimps diet is meat.
This is being exacerbated by the fact that the west's modern meat-heavy "luxury" diet is being exported to emerging nations like China and India, where their massive populations are creating an exponential growth in meat production, bringing with it an acceleration of the ecological and environmental damage inherent in the industry.
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 17 8.14pm | |
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The dangers of quasi religious faith in restrictive diets.
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Sep 17 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
This is being exacerbated by the fact that the west's modern meat-heavy "luxury" diet is being exported to emerging nations like China and India, where their massive populations are creating an exponential growth in meat production, bringing with it an acceleration of the ecological and environmental damage inherent in the industry. That is a symptom of rapidly increasing population and the development of countries which contain the majority of that increase.
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Ray in Houston Houston 05 Sep 17 8.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The problem with meat is that it tastes so good but if the world stopped eating it tomorrow then the planet would be a much healthier place in more ways than one even if there would be suddenly 5,000,000 retail units up for grabs. And that's just in Texas.
FYI, meat processing is one of the most dangerous jobs out there. Swapping those jobs for farming and picking crops would be a huge upgrade to those involved.
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