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7mins Flag In the bush 30 Jul 17 11.32pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Romford-Eagle

As a bus driver in London, what I would like to know is why every black male under the age 40 has a child bus pass..

In my opinion a lot of young black men have a lack of morals, more so than any other racial group. That's not to say ALL young black men do... but if you look at crime stats, they are over represented.
When I was at school, we had a great black teacher who was a real nice guy, with no agenda and a direct honesty that I didn't appreciate at the time, he took the black kids under his wing. There was a report that came out that 8/10 street robberies were committed by black men... he told me if 8/10 black men were doctors, the black community would be broadcasting it to anyone and everyone, but when it comes to crime, they don't discuss... it's like they bury their heads in the sand... which of course perpetuates the problem.
I've said it on this site before, a family member has had to move to Horsham from London, because their young son was getting in with a black gang. It's not only old white people that are concerned about crime in the black community, older black people are just as worried.
There's always crime at MOBOs or Notting Hill... you never get crime at a Bollywood award ceremony or other carnivals.
We need to have a open discussion about it... once we admit the problem, we stand more chance of solving it.
Personally, I think there's a lot of anti-intellectualism in the black community. I'm the only one from the "black" side of my family to go university, where as on my mum's side, they have all done further education apart from one, who joined the armed forces.

 

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Romford-Eagle Flag Romford 31 Jul 17 12.34am Send a Private Message to Romford-Eagle Add Romford-Eagle as a friend

My comment on blacks under 40 having child bus passes was meant with a bit of tongue in cheek, obviously not all of them, but seems to be 18 to 25 year olds, who seem to have a lack of respect for the laws of the land, and in reply to Hedgehog50 asking do I argue with them, I try to point out the error of their ways, but regrettably out comes the race card, Its cos I'm black init. and Transport for London's policy is they don't want to upset minority groups, so were instructed to let them travel and turn a blind eye, cos they know what goes on, but are prepared to suffer the loss for the sake of harmony, and do other passengers want to sit on the bus for twenty minutes for the police to turn up throw the individuals off knowing all they will do is wait for the next bus, in my experience passengers would normally say, come on driver I want to get home, just let him or them travel, so in the end a bus driver can't win without the support of other passengers...

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 31 Jul 17 1.04am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

In my opinion a lot of young black men have a lack of morals, more so than any other racial group. That's not to say ALL young black men do... but if you look at crime stats, they are over represented.
When I was at school, we had a great black teacher who was a real nice guy, with no agenda and a direct honesty that I didn't appreciate at the time, he took the black kids under his wing. There was a report that came out that 8/10 street robberies were committed by black men... he told me if 8/10 black men were doctors, the black community would be broadcasting it to anyone and everyone, but when it comes to crime, they don't discuss... it's like they bury their heads in the sand... which of course perpetuates the problem.
I've said it on this site before, a family member has had to move to Horsham from London, because their young son was getting in with a black gang. It's not only old white people that are concerned about crime in the black community, older black people are just as worried.
There's always crime at MOBOs or Notting Hill... you never get crime at a Bollywood award ceremony or other carnivals.
We need to have a open discussion about it... once we admit the problem, we stand more chance of solving it.
Personally, I think there's a lot of anti-intellectualism in the black community. I'm the only one from the "black" side of my family to go university, where as on my mum's side, they have all done further education apart from one, who joined the armed forces.

Well said. Hip Hop awards event nearly always a shooting or stabbing & to echo Romfords story Re Buses. Its the same here in NYC. Every other person swipes their card but there are certain parts of the Bronx & Brooklyn where they just let them on for the sake of harmony.

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 31 Jul 17 12.26pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Well said. Hip Hop awards event nearly always a shooting or stabbing & to echo Romfords story Re Buses. Its the same here in NYC. Every other person swipes their card but there are certain parts of the Bronx & Brooklyn where they just let them on for the sake of harmony.

This will increase resentment. Young black males can't complain about being treated differently if they continually act differently.
If I was a non black commuter that saw young black men continually fare evade, I'd form a negative opinion of them.

I'd love it if young black men decided to understand what makes a real man... it isn't being a criminal, it's behaving with dignity/humility and paying your own way. My dad reckons it's down to absent fathers in the black community... I've seen the stats... and it don't paint a great picture, compared to other ethnic groups.

For me... it's a factor of many things that hold young black males back...
* lack of role models
* a culture of criminality
* anti intellectualism

The above creates a environment of underachieving and criminality.
We're all conditioned by our environment... we have to change that... we have to make young black people that gang culture keeps you on the fringes of society... we need to help black families stay together. It pains me to say it... but the black community can be a bit selfish and blame others for their own shortcomings. Just look at the lack of black transplant donors, or the lack of black foster families.

Asian/Jews/Chinese/Eastern European all have a work ethic and see the importance in education that young black males don't.

My black side of my family mock me for doing (relatively) well in life and for going uni. When I worked as head of HR in the city... they'd take the piss, in a friendly way.. but their banter portrayed a belief that what I was doing... was something beyond their reach... when in reality... they were just as smart as I was/wasn't... but their family/culture/social circle/attitude/morals meant they had very little chance of achieving anything.
Of course... as with most people they blame others for their shortcomings.


 

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7mins Flag In the bush 31 Jul 17 12.37pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Not that it needs to be said.... But I'm obviously not talking about every single black male.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 31 Jul 17 12.42pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

They well may be "small minded t***s" but the underlying problem is that multi-culturalism doesn't really work - people generally prefer to associate with people of their own race, religion, language and culture. Of course there are exceptions, but it is generally true.

Of course it works to an extent, for most people. They live around, and work with people of all different ethnicities and cultures, and inter-marry and have relationships.

The problem is that some people expect multi-culturalism to be a merging of all cultures, rather than a co-existence (ie too much) and others just reject the idea for differnet reasons. But for most people getting along with their neighbours and co-workers isn't a problem.

But there are people of all walks who are opposed to the idea of tolerance, interaction and co-existence because it challenges their agenda, which typically is about isolationism

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Jul 17 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

When I worked as head of HR in the city... they'd take the piss, in a friendly way.. but their banter portrayed a belief that what I was doing... was something beyond their reach... when in reality... they were just as smart as I was/wasn't... but their family/culture/social circle/attitude/morals meant they had very little chance of achieving anything.
Of course... as with most people they blame others for their shortcomings.

Woo hoo, another one of us. I had no idea.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 31 Jul 17 2.00pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Of course it works to an extent, for most people. They live around, and work with people of all different ethnicities and cultures, and inter-marry and have relationships.

The problem is that some people expect multi-culturalism to be a merging of all cultures, rather than a co-existence (ie too much) and others just reject the idea for differnet reasons. But for most people getting along with their neighbours and co-workers isn't a problem.

But there are people of all walks who are opposed to the idea of tolerance, interaction and co-existence because it challenges their agenda, which typically is about isolationism

What you say doesn't actually contradict what I said.

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 31 Jul 17 2.01pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Woo hoo, another one of us. I had no idea.

That was the old me.... I sold my soul to the devil for filthy £££, I got out before it killed my humanity.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Jul 17 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

That was the old me.... I sold my soul to the devil for filthy £££, I got out before it killed my humanity.

Oh, it's not too bad once you forget what it was like to have humanity.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Aug 17 10.20am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What you say doesn't actually contradict what I said.

I know, it qualifies it better though.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Aug 17 10.55am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Of course it works to an extent, for most people. They live around, and work with people of all different ethnicities and cultures, and inter-marry and have relationships.

The problem is that some people expect multi-culturalism to be a merging of all cultures, rather than a co-existence (ie too much) and others just reject the idea for differnet reasons. But for most people getting along with their neighbours and co-workers isn't a problem.

But there are people of all walks who are opposed to the idea of tolerance, interaction and co-existence because it challenges their agenda, which typically is about isolationism

Is it really an agenda or just a natural inclination?
If multi culture offered a clear practical benefit then I'm sure people would embrace it and set aside other more instinctual feelings about people who are different or newcomers. That is not the case. There is clear evidence that multi culture has brought mostly bother, as it always has throughout history.
Terrorists, street crime, gang culture, rape gangs, suppressed wages, religious and superstitious lunacy, organised crime, modern slavery, arranged marriages, honour killings, female mutilation, blah blah blah.
This is the stuff we see in the headlines and local papers on a regular basis so it's no good saying that these things are not specific to immigration because very little is specific. We have to deal with the here and now and those responsible.

 

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