The thing about the Russian election activity is that it was apparently effective. No, the haven't been found to have actively flipped a vote, but so much of the anti-Clinton / pro-Trump noise around the election was "fake news" that was spread but bots and operators specifically to sway voters in one direction only. It has been found that the Russians targeted the social media pages of specific individuals in specific voting districts in order to influence their vote.

So, no, they didn't reach into the voting machines and change the result. But they did reach into peoples' heads to achieve the same thing.

Mueller has been staffing his team with investigators and prosecutors who collectively have experience in money laundering and RICO cases. It's so obvious about where this investigation is going; it's following the money that has flowed into Trump's back pocket via real estate deals transacted with Russians. Like this one: [Link]

Trump's business dealings have been dirty as s*** for years. He is now suffering one of the consequences of becoming President; that being the the giant spotlight hat gets shone on your entire existence. As one CIA operative commented, if this runs its course, "he'll die in jail."

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

He'll veto it because: (a) it's what his boss wants; and (b) because it puts all the pressure back on Congressional Republicans to grow a pair and overturn his veto.

There'll be a publicity ding from such a veto, but Trump doesn't worry about that because he could - as he famously said - shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his poll ratings would go up (with his base). However, the Congressional Republicans have to worry about a backlash from the base to overturn Trump, so I'd expect those invertebrates to collapse and decline to overturn the veto.

As for the rest of us outside of Trump's base, we already know that Putin is pulling his strings. What we will see though, to our horror, is that Trump will have completely subjugated to his (Putin's) will the only people in a position to do anything about it before November 2018.

Edited by Ray in Houston (24 Jul 2017 8.45pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Did you have a problem with the quite blaitant media agenda against Corbyn during the election campaign over here or did you miss that one?

We're the Arthur over ere!

Trump has been investigated on a large scale for a year on this Russia thing and nothing can be directly tied to him. Hell, Trump has actually had investigations into all his business dealings for years.

What I can agree with is that if he were helped by Russia I believe that he would have used that help. But as too what actual effective stuff went on that broke the law......Still nothing...I can't see him being impeached over this....This is a mixture of wish fulfillment and demonisation.....Again, I await for something actually solid.

Just like the attempts over Bill Clinton's impeachment all this smells more of political motivation than any real concern for the health of America.

I think it's far wiser for democrats to sort out an effective leader and campaign for the next election...beat his party in the mid terms and him in an election....If Trump is removed in a manner that looks like the establishment did it.....The response is going to be a sh1tshow.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jul 2017 12.30am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Disagree. Democrats missed a trick not going for Bernie.

Congratulations. You actually responded with something on topic.
Chapeau.