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matt_himself Matataland 18 Apr 17 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
So you are willing to let everything I say slide because you buy in to this bull about Corbyn being unelectable? It's almost like some sick twisted film. The party in charge are busy screwing up literally everything, increasing the wealth of the rich and f*cking over the poor and not even suggesting they're doing otherwise, then you have an opposition trying to point it out, but rather than listen, people are just lapping up the party in power's message that the opposition are unelectable. Every single one of Labour's policies are supported by a majority of the public. If this was X Factor, fair play for voting on personality. But it's not. This sh*t actually matters. But that's not quite the case. The opposition are a mess. Riddled with infighting, led by a man who has never led anything, no strategy and actively seeking 'ideological purity' over winning elections. Unfortunately all of the above makes the party unelectable and if you think this is solely because the government are telling them to think this, and that the electorate are a bunch of brainless droogs, I refer you to June 23 2016, when the public defied the government and voted as they wished. What is encouraging for me and other purveyors of sense, is that you lot have not learnt your lesson from the EU referendum and still blindly think people want what you offer. They don't want unnecessary social experiments, unworkable economic 'visions' and the prioritising of bizarre minority pursuits over the well being of the majority. This election is a wonderful opportunity to bury Corbyn, mess up Labour for another 10 years, kick Sturgeon in the sporran and let May get on with doing what people voted for last year - leaving the Socialist Federation of Europe.
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europalace Europe 18 Apr 17 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We have to move to the right this time for the sake of Britain's immediate future and long term prospects.
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m/k mick milton keynes 18 Apr 17 1.30pm | |
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We are between a rock and a hard place, if may gets anything less than a resounding victory, the EU juncker and co will crucify us, i have never voted for the tories, but the thought of tim and or jeremy having any influence scares the life out of me, i shall hold my nose and vote tory
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 18 Apr 17 1.37pm | |
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Another flip flop from the May team. It would be interesting if the Lib Dem got the deciding vote. Campaigning for Remain and all.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 1.38pm | |
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Originally posted by m/k mick
We are between a rock and a hard place, if may gets anything less than a resounding victory, the EU juncker and co will crucify us, i have never voted for the tories, but the thought of tim and or jeremy having any influence scares the life out of me, i shall hold my nose and vote tory Wait till you see policies before deciding.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 18 Apr 17 1.43pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wait till you see policies before deciding. The problem for Labour is that quite a few of their policies are popular with the electorate. The leader is not and which ever way you try to dress it up, that will cost them
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Part Time James 18 Apr 17 1.44pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wait till you see policies before deciding. That'd be a novel way for British people to decide. Ideally we ought to make our decisions based on someone we know saying "you never heard what the leader of XYZ party did to a gerbil".
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Apr 17 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Another flip flop from the May team. It would be interesting if the Lib Dem got the deciding vote. Campaigning for Remain and all. Genuinely out of interest Peffers, what are the other 'flip flops'? I am not aware of any others.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 18 Apr 17 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
That'd be a novel way for British people to decide. Ideally we ought to make our decisions based on someone we know saying "you never heard what the leader of XYZ party did to a gerbil". or pig's head.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 18 Apr 17 1.50pm | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Genuinely out of interest Peffers, what are the other 'flip flops'? I am not aware of any others. One of many but close to my heart would be the treatment of the self employed at /after the budget. There are many other tis a weak government team.
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Apr 17 1.56pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
One of many but close to my heart would be the treatment of the self employed at /after the budget. There are many other tis a weak government team. agreed, the self employed issue was handled well. I disagree that this is a 'weak government team'. This seems very ballsy and the Tories are far more united than anyone other than the SNP.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 1.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
The problem for Labour is that quite a few of their policies are popular with the electorate. The leader is not and which ever way you try to dress it up, that will cost them I think that the choice between a Tory post brexit vision and a labour one will transcend who is leader.
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