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mattteo 18 Apr 17 7.46am | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
Defoe isn't going to lose any pace. He is 34, this is how his body will hold up until he retires.
Time is unforgivable mate.
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mattteo 18 Apr 17 7.50am | |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
Jordan Rhodes - bought for £11m by Middlesborough, now on loan at Sheffield Wednesday Christian Benteke. You have highlighted the issue above. Any striker who bangs in 20+ goals a season at a young age is signed by a top four club. Lewis Grabban - based on your facts about that is what a £10m striker is these days. I'd rather have Defoe. Benteke and Carroll caused a loss for Top 6 clubs. Only because those Top 6 clubs paid sooo much for them. I'm still waiting for you to give me examples of the losses for those 3-10 million strikers or Academy graduates. All right, I'll accept Jordan Rhodes with the 11 million you mentioned which will not be recouped. Anyone else? Edited by mattteo (18 Apr 2017 7.50am)
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robdave2k 18 Apr 17 2.41pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Benteke and Carroll caused a loss for Top 6 clubs. Only because those Top 6 clubs paid sooo much for them. I'm still waiting for you to give me examples of the losses for those 3-10 million strikers or Academy graduates. All right, I'll accept Jordan Rhodes with the 11 million you mentioned which will not be recouped. Anyone else? Edited by mattteo (18 Apr 2017 7.50am) I'll start with two for us. Patrick Bamford
And as your post highlights - the losses are made by top clubs. They hoover up the talent. If a 15-20 goal a year striker was so easy to come by every club would have one!
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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 Apr 17 3.45pm | |
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If we signed Defoe would he ever be more than back up to Beneteke
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mattteo 19 Apr 17 6.02am | |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
I'll start with two for us. Patrick Bamford
And as your post highlights - the losses are made by top clubs. They hoover up the talent. If a 15-20 goal a year striker was so easy to come by every club would have one!
I'll try to name a few players who would cost 3-10 million and would offer more than Defoe. You're asking quite a lot at 15 goals per season. Does that include taking penalties or not? Does it include getting the same playing time as, let's say, Defoe or Benteke got this year? Cause if you play someone half that time, then surely it would be hard to get 15 goals in a season. But given the same playing time: I'd have said Karelis too but he recently broke his leg Dare I say Dwight Gayle? No, he'd surely cost more than 15 now at the PL prices. You gotta look at those who are neglected by anyone else. Like how Forestieri has been extraordinary at Sheffield but now is 4th choice cause they brought in Rhodes and Winnall (crazy, I know!). Edited by mattteo (19 Apr 2017 6.12am)
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 17 7.00am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
I'll try to name a few players who would cost 3-10 million and would offer more than Defoe. You're asking quite a lot at 15 goals per season. Does that include taking penalties or not? Does it include getting the same playing time as, let's say, Defoe or Benteke got this year? Cause if you play someone half that time, then surely it would be hard to get 15 goals in a season. But given the same playing time: I'd have said Karelis too but he recently broke his leg Dare I say Dwight Gayle? No, he'd surely cost more than 15 now at the PL prices. You gotta look at those who are neglected by anyone else. Like how Forestieri has been extraordinary at Sheffield but now is 4th choice cause they brought in Rhodes and Winnall (crazy, I know!). Edited by mattteo (19 Apr 2017 6.12am) Bamford cost a loan fee and wages. Surely you must remember Sanogoals?
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HeathMan Purley 19 Apr 17 9.39am | |
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Always handy to have threats available from the bench - or on for the first twenty minutes. Football is a team game with many players available, but also with players who can prove expensive (no product provided). In Sam we trust.
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mattteo 19 Apr 17 11.12am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Bamford cost a loan fee and wages. Surely you must remember Sanogoals? Why do you keep being offensive? I'm having a simple, nice conversation.
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 17 4.31pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Why do you keep being offensive? I'm having a simple, nice conversation. I don't think i am being offensive, if you think that i apologise. However your last sentence sums up a lot of your posts, you seem to believe you are always right and no-one else very much at all. Please do not surmise I do not know the players you do 9 I could take that as being offensive!!)
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 17 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I don't think i am being offensive, if you think that i apologise. However your last sentence sums up a lot of your posts, you seem to believe you are always right and no-one else * very much at all. Please do not surmise I do not know the players you do 9 I could take that as being offensive!!) * KNOWS
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mattteo 19 Apr 17 4.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I don't think i am being offensive, if you think that i apologise. However your last sentence sums up a lot of your posts, you seem to believe you are always right and no-one else very much at all. Please do not surmise I do not know the players you do 9 I could take that as being offensive!!) Ok, then let's talk about them. I want to see how much you know. You can learn from me, I can learn from you. You asked me how many of the above players have performed well and scored regularly in the Premier League. Of course, you are right in considering a first season in English football is something used for getting accustomed, usually with less goals scored than normally. But then again, if a player like Gabbiadini (who comes from Italy and isn't very hard-working) has had such an amazing start, if a player like Vardy had an amazing first season after promotion from the Championship, if players like Rickie Lambert, Charlie Austin or Odion Ighalo were able to properly compete in the PL after having a good ratio of goals scored/minutes played in the Championship, why should it be different for someone else?
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Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 17 8.44pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Ok, then let's talk about them. I want to see how much you know. You can learn from me, I can learn from you. You asked me how many of the above players have performed well and scored regularly in the Premier League. Of course, you are right in considering a first season in English football is something used for getting accustomed, usually with less goals scored than normally. But then again, if a player like Gabbiadini (who comes from Italy and isn't very hard-working) has had such an amazing start, if a player like Vardy had an amazing first season after promotion from the Championship, if players like Rickie Lambert, Charlie Austin or Odion Ighalo were able to properly compete in the PL after having a good ratio of goals scored/minutes played in the Championship, why should it be different for someone else? You have completely lost me now! Not sure I can learn from you as I don't really understand what you are saying, this is not meant to be offensive.
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