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01CPFC Flag central coast NSW (The Mariners Mi... 30 Mar 17 12.56am

Originally posted by Dan89

He made the club toxic. I can't think of another manager leaving such a disaster behind him, however you got to give him some credit for keeping us up after warnock and sneaking 10th place the following season. At one stage Palace were 5th in Nov/Dec 2015. Then it come crashing down to earth in 2016. With an absolutely horrendous year of results 6 wins. The cup final which should of been his last game as manager but he seemed to convince parish and the board to offer him a long contract. Then we started this season and his arrogance got to a new level saying that clean sheets weren't important. I'm glad he's gone but to say he was a useless manager is not right. Maybe he rode the wave of pulis defensive structure to get the important results in 2015. Not many Palace managers have a 40% win ratio in the prem. In 2015: pld 38 w19 d 6 L13
In 2016: pld 37 w 6 d 9 L22 .

Edited by Dan89 (29 Mar 2017 9.13pm)

Combined 2015/2016 33.333% win ratio,
Combined 2015/2016 46.7% loss ratio
in 2016 alone 59.5% loss ratio
Well done Allan
COYP

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Mar 17 1.06am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by 01CPFC

Combined 2015/2016 33.333% win ratio,
Combined 2015/2016 46.7% loss ratio
in 2016 alone 59.5% loss ratio
Well done Allan
COYP

My various conversations included stats, signings and much more - very wide ranging and interesting.

 

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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 30 Mar 17 1.45am

I've met blokes like AP before. They are complete egotists and self-deluded about their own brilliance. Big Sam has said and done nothing but common sense since he got here, but genius Pardew, even in this interview he is completely vacuous, arrogant and self-absorbed. It was always going to happen 'tomorrow' or 'soon' with him. But he did the same with us as he did with NUFC. I am so happy that he is gone and that we were blessed enough for Sam to lose his England job and be with us. He talks absolute sense, makes wise transfers and subs, doesn't get carried away with himself, and he's humble, which really suits our PL status. Luka's signing is IMO a HUGE influence on our current form as he does what Jedi did - only better - allowing other mids and wingers the freedom to play THEIR games. AP never mentioned that need while here or in his latest interview. It was HIS decision to kick out Jedi (oh he's so loyal ain't he?), and it was his inability to see the negative effect of that dumb decision. Sam saw it. Sam saw the need to fix the broken confidence in defence too. How Sam did it in so short a time is a marvel. AP, Good riddance.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Mar 17 1.50am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

I've met blokes like AP before. They are complete egotists and self-deluded about their own brilliance. Big Sam has said and done nothing but common sense since he got here, but genius Pardew, even in this interview he is completely vacuous, arrogant and self-absorbed. It was always going to happen 'tomorrow' or 'soon' with him. But he did the same with us as he did with NUFC. I am so happy that he is gone and that we were blessed enough for Sam to lose his England job and be with us. He talks absolute sense, makes wise transfers and subs, doesn't get carried away with himself, and he's humble, which really suits our PL status. Luka's signing is IMO a HUGE influence on our current form as he does what Jedi did - only better - allowing other mids and wingers the freedom to play THEIR games. AP never mentioned that need while here or in his latest interview. It was HIS decision to kick out Jedi (oh he's so loyal ain't he?), and it was his inability to see the negative effect of that dumb decision. Sam saw it. Sam saw the need to fix the broken confidence in defence too. How Sam did it in so short a time is a marvel. AP, Good riddance.

I accept we needed a 'Jedi' but in my humble estimation he wasn't the answer so I can understand why we accepted £4 mill for him. All about opinions!

 

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iheartcpfc Flag SE25 30 Mar 17 3.57am Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

Thank f*** the arrogant div isn't here anymore with his excuses, s*** signings, naive tactics, awful game management and poor squad mgmt (binning all the leaders and not replacing them)

Up the Big Sam

 

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sprites Flag Auckland 30 Mar 17 4.06am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

This sums up pardew success in the transfer window
Pardew signings since being at the club
Soaure hit
Ameboi flop
Chungy flop
Mutch. Disaster
Sanogo. Flop
Zaha loan turned to permanent hit
McCarthy flop
Cabaye. Ok
Sako. Flop
Wickham. Ok
Bamford. Flop
Adebayor flop
Mandanda flop
Tomkins. Flop under pardew. Shown significant improvement
Flamini. Flop
Remy. Flop due to lack of game time
Townsend similar to Tomkins. Was poor under pardew
Benteke ok in terms of goal record but need more
J. Benteke. Publicity stunt- flop

It's laughable that he wanted the January to rectify the problems after his disasters in the transfer market.


Edited by Dan89 (29 Mar 2017 11.53am)

Not really fair. Hasn't had too much of a chance. Great player.

 

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Dan89 Flag Se25 30 Mar 17 7.00am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Not really fair. Hasn't had too much of a chance. Great player.

Great player. Really he's hardly impressed when he's on the field

 


Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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Littlebogreek Flag 30 Mar 17 8.28am Send a Private Message to Littlebogreek Add Littlebogreek as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

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That's right he took of Jimmy Mac in the 87th minute and brought on Campbell.
And the moment I wanted him out.

Thats the exact moment he completely lost me too, up to that point I was supporting him as much as I could, when he did that it was completely un-defendable

 

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Jacey Flag 30 Mar 17 8.29am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Pardew has and always will be,in denial as to his considerable errors of judgment and blame worthiness.

A true legend in his own mind.

 

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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 30 Mar 17 9.06am

Originally posted by Willo

I accept we needed a 'Jedi' but in my humble estimation he wasn't the answer so I can understand why we accepted £4 mill for him. All about opinions!

I agree, but he needed to be replaced, not just his skill-set, but his steadying and leadership role in the dressing room and on the pitch. Pardew never appeared to acknowledge this.

 


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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 30 Mar 17 9.54am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

I agree, but he needed to be replaced, not just his skill-set, but his steadying and leadership role in the dressing room and on the pitch. Pardew never appeared to acknowledge this.

Because he considered Jedi to be a threat!

 


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Mad4palace Flag 30 Mar 17 10.20am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I accept we needed a 'Jedi' but in my humble estimation he wasn't the answer so I can understand why we accepted £4 mill for him. All about opinions!

I still don't understand why we accepted £4 million for Jedi, really £4 million is nothing in today's football market, especially given we had no other DM at the time and for 7 months after until Milivojevic came. Jedi was on comparatively minuscule wages to most at the club, the cost to replace him has been far too high, the club should have realised that, when you have good reliable 30+ player like Jedinak or Murray just keep hold of them. You end up having to spend 3x what you get for them, risking it on a younger player who might not be as good. Trim the squad of players like Ledley, Mutch, Lee, not your stalwarts.

Jedi was actually playing his best football since 2014 when we sold him, that was my greatest disappointment because I could see the prick that sold him wasn't going to last the season anyway.

 

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