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jamiemartin721  Reading 30 Mar 17 11.39am |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Cant imagine how hard it is on the battlefield kermit, but would you post the same thing if it had been one of our guys been told to shuttle off the mortal coil and was finished off by say a syrian soldier and then hear him say just broke the geneva convention guys, this goes no further ok? Would the sun and mail say, they were doing him a favour? or would they say our guys wouldnt act like that?I think once you condone that sort of thing, you cant start condemning same thing if an enemy soldier does it to one of our guys , cant have it both ways unfortunately, but like the marine said, not sure any of us civilians can realy imagine what goes on day to day in the battlefield, only can imagine,i know i wouldnt fancy it! I think I can imagine how hard it is to being in a war. I might be a long way from the actual experience that a service man, especially in the army, might have, but I think you'd have to be pretty dumb to think its anything but being exposed to some of the worst things humanity can offer, and having to do things you'd only think of in nightmares. We need to hear more of what Soldiers experience, not the platitudes of politicians talking about abstracted heroes, but the real lifes stories of the men and women who serve - if we want to truly understand the cost we as a society inflict when we send men and women into war.
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| Hoof Hearted 30 Mar 17 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Well said. In the heat of battle imo all bets are off . Geneva convention or not the rules of normal life are suspended to a degree. I am not talking about acts such as rape and torture which have been mentioned upthread but life or death situations . They would have done exactly the same thing or worse without a moment's hesitation if it were a reverse situation You weren't given a tip about this then.. and "lumped on" that Sgt Blackman would be found guilty?
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| Hoof Hearted 30 Mar 17 11.55am | |
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Originally posted by richard shaw (og)65
i opened this thread thinking , i know who is going to be saying what and who is going to argue with who , and hoof hearted puts a top hat on it by calling a poster by his first name in a matey way , one of the reasons i rarely frequent HOL any more . I've PM'd you... obviously you have a problem with me? Edited by Hoof Hearted (30 Mar 2017 12.48pm)
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 dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 30 Mar 17 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Cant imagine how hard it is on the battlefield kermit, but would you post the same thing if it had been one of our guys been told to shuttle off the mortal coil and was finished off by say a syrian soldier and then hear him say just broke the geneva convention guys, this goes no further ok? Would the sun and mail say, they were doing him a favour? or would they say our guys wouldnt act like that?I think once you condone that sort of thing, you cant start condemning same thing if an enemy soldier does it to one of our guys , cant have it both ways unfortunately, but like the marine said, not sure any of us civilians can realy imagine what goes on day to day in the battlefield, only can imagine,i know i wouldnt fancy it! Most people I know who'd been on tour talked about saving their last bullet for themselves in case of capture, your post reads like the good old boys of Syria would never do such a thing. Let me tell you if all they did was finish you off nice and quick, there wouldn't be any talk of saving the last one for yourself if you got caught. Rape. And they're the lucky ones that don't get burnt alive. What Sgt Blackman did may seem cold hearted and wrong from your perspective. But given the context, I would have done exactly the same. War is by it's very virtue, an unpalatable (to some) truth of human existence, to suggest anyone has the moral high ground in a game of death top trumps is to be frank stupid.
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Mar 17 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
You weren't given a tip about this then.. and "lumped on" that Sgt Blackman would be found guilty?
Give it a rest!
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| Hoof Hearted 30 Mar 17 12.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Give it a rest! Only joking Michaela... trying to lighten the mood on a gloomy thread....
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Mar 17 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Only joking Michaela... trying to lighten the mood on a gloomy thread....
Fair enough.. rigged betting vs sodomy.. hmm let me think for a minute
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| Hoof Hearted 30 Mar 17 12.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Fair enough.. rigged betting vs sodomy.. hmm let me think for a minute
The latter makes your eyes water.... I'm told....
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Mar 17 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Most people I know who'd been on tour talked about saving their last bullet for themselves in case of capture, your post reads like the good old boys of Syria would never do such a thing. Let me tell you if all they did was finish you off nice and quick, there wouldn't be any talk of saving the last one for yourself if you got caught. Rape. And they're the lucky ones that don't get burnt alive. What Sgt Blackman did may seem cold hearted and wrong from your perspective. But given the context, I would have done exactly the same. War is by it's very virtue, an unpalatable (to some) truth of human existence, to suggest anyone has the moral high ground in a game of death top trumps is to be frank stupid. Odd as it sounds, being burned alive is not as bad as it seems. It looks f**king horrible and scary as f**k, in reality most people will pass out from smoke inhalation, and the most nerve tissue will be burned out within 7 seconds. Granted, not good in anyone's book, but apparently it looks a lot worse than it is. Being badly and dying of the injuries is pretty terrible, but immolation especially with an accelerate, is relatively quick.
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Mar 17 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Odd as it sounds, being burned alive is not as bad as it seems. It looks f**king horrible and scary as f**k, in reality most people will pass out from smoke inhalation, and the most nerve tissue will be burned out within 7 seconds. Granted, not good in anyone's book, but apparently it looks a lot worse than it is. Being badly and dying of the injuries is pretty terrible, but immolation especially with an accelerate, is relatively quick. Have you tried it then
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 30 Mar 17 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Have you tried it then
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 30 Mar 17 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Never heard of the afterlife then!
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