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Icepick Tony Chester 05 Feb 17 11.02am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Pity we brought on Ledley instead of Flamini. Pity the Home Office couldn't issue Milevojevic' visa in time, as well. I can only guess he is still not 100% as the last few outings he's been rock solid.
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rikz Croydon 05 Feb 17 12.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Yes, let's compare Punch to one of the best playmakers ever? His basic story with us over the last 2/3 seasons has been, he wasn't good enough to be a winger once Wilf and Bolasie were on song so he was tried out as a No.10 as Chamakh was injured all the time. He got the odd goal in the beginning but the way the team set up allowed him to basically float and not really have many duties. He is out of his depth now and can't play the position, regardless of who is next to him he doesn't have the vision or ability needed to play the role. Our team isnt good enough to carry him so it highlights how ineffective he is. He isn't a Kroos, Pirlo or a Motta, he's a lad from south London who done alright but has never been top quality. Not an international midfielder that you're comparing him to. Yesterday really did show how much of a difference Cabaye makes in our midfield 3 as once he went off we were lost in the middle. Summed him up perfectly.
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Mstrobez 05 Feb 17 2.24pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
For your knowledge, all those players were wingers in their youth For your knowledge Puncheon played on the wing for us at the age of 27 and started playing number 10 at 29. But your knowledge on palace is so limited I would question whether or not you actually support us.
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bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Feb 17 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
For your knowledge Puncheon played on the wing for us at the age of 27 and started playing number 10 at 29. But your knowledge on palace is so limited I would question whether or not you actually support us. ...... Nah!
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mattteo 05 Feb 17 7.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
For your knowledge Puncheon played on the wing for us at the age of 27 and started playing number 10 at 29. But your knowledge on palace is so limited I would question whether or not you actually support us.
WHY ARE YOU BEING A JACKASS AND TELLING ME THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS TEAM?
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cols123 beckenham 05 Feb 17 7.40pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Pirlo played in front of the defence in his last years. He wasn't very different from Puncheon. Thiago Motta does it for PSG, Kroos for Madrid sometimes. Not a defensive midfielder, but a deep lying playmaker. If there are 2 central box-to-box midfielders in front of him, it's doable. All he'd have to do is maintain position and close spaces, as the other 2 midfielders would be the ones doing the tackles. McArthur and Cabaye could be those. But I reckon Allardyce will always play them differently: McArthur and Cabaye lower, Puncheon behind the striker. And not having the necessary pace in that position where you're basically the second striker really damages the pressing and recovery of the team. Puncheon is like Pirlo Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! I needed a laugh like this!
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Nobbybm Dartford 05 Feb 17 7.48pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
For your knowledge, all those players were wingers in their youth So were Thierry Henry & David Trezeguet but if you think you can compare them to Punch then you are deluded. You do actually understand that Football Manager is not 'real' don't you? Quoting stats does not prove knowledge of the game, just knowledge of the numbers. Take yesterday's Hull V Liverpool: the scousers had: 72% possession but, guess what, they lost 2-0. PS: no need to SHOUT we can read in lower case too.
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cpfc1976 Reading 05 Feb 17 7.56pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
WHY ARE YOU BEING A JACKASS AND TELLING ME THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS TEAM? Dear oh dear. Still going matteo.... Pirlo like Puncheon??? Ha ha ha. A day later and you still haven't given us the punchline.
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mattteo 05 Feb 17 8.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
So were Thierry Henry & David Trezeguet but if you think you can compare them to Punch then you are deluded. You do actually understand that Football Manager is not 'real' don't you? Quoting stats does not prove knowledge of the game, just knowledge of the numbers. Take yesterday's Hull V Liverpool: the scousers had: 72% possession but, guess what, they lost 2-0. PS: no need to SHOUT we can read in lower case too. Take those statistics into consideration, SMART PANTS, and realize that Liverpool is 4th and Hull is f******ing 18th and it was just 90 minutes that nobody could control. But at the end of the championship, Liverpool will be at least 10 positions higher BECAUSE of those statistics
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cpfc1976 Reading 05 Feb 17 8.27pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Take those statistics into consideration, SMART PANTS, and realize that Liverpool is 4th and Hull is f******ing 18th and it was just 90 minutes that nobody could control. But at the end of the championship, Liverpool will be at least 10 positions higher BECAUSE of those statistics Yeah and we came 11th in 13/14 with about 30% possession. We are doubling that this season and are bottom three and getting beat every week.
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mattteo 05 Feb 17 8.37pm | |
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Originally posted by cpfc1976
Dear oh dear. Still going matteo.... Pirlo like Puncheon??? Ha ha ha. A day later and you still haven't given us the punchline. The idea is that when Pirlo got slow and couldn't run anymore as a winger, he became a central midfielder. The point is that Pirlo played first man in front of the defence when Juventus won their first title under Conte. 3 at the back: Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini. Pirlo in front of the defence, with Vidal and Pogba as box-to-box. 2 strikers: Tevez and Morata. In Allegri's first season, they even ditched Barzagli and played Marchisio as a third box-to-box midfielder and still won the league by a great margin. And many low level teams have one too, to distribute the balls: Huddlestone for Hull, Shelvey for Newcastle, Charlie Adam for Stoke, Wilshire plays there many times, Jurado for Espanyol, Huszti for Eintracht..... All of those players were a lot faster when younger, but got slower and more intelligent with the passage of time. I don't see why Puncheon can't play like this as long as he has Cabaye and McArthur to sweep in front of him. Do you think Milivojevic is that much different from Puncheon? Good technique, slow feet. This is exactly what you'll get from him
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mattteo 05 Feb 17 8.38pm | |
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Originally posted by cpfc1976
Yeah and we came 11th in 13/14 with about 30% possession. We are doubling that this season and are bottom three and getting beat every week. It's the number of shots and the goals scored that matter, not necessary the possession
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