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BenLPriest Flag Haywards Heath 06 Jan 17 12.50pm Send a Private Message to BenLPriest Add BenLPriest as a friend

I love supporting Palace and then, every now and then, I make the mistake of logging on here and it leaves me thoroughly depressed.
I don't think it's possible for the HF statement to be more misguided - Jedinak a local lad???
All is far from rosy in the Palace garden at the moment but we are in the midst of our fourth consecutive season in the PL and have just been to Wembley for an FA Cup Final.
Money is being spent to improve every facet of the club - players, ground, training ground etc and that's the right way to go.
The HF do not represent my club. The atmosphere at the moment, lead by them, is far too toxic and negative. They were firmly put in their place by the singing and passion of the Man Utd away supporters at the last game I went to.
As someone said earlier 'get behind the players and stop kidding yourself the world is listening.'
Spot on.


 

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 06 Jan 17 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Where was Jedi mentioned as a local lad?

 


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steph_eagle Flag Thornton Heath 06 Jan 17 12.57pm Send a Private Message to steph_eagle Add steph_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Where was Jedi mentioned as a local lad?

He wasn't

 

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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 06 Jan 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There is some right re: away fan cosiness and a lot ridiculously incorrect or hypocritical tosh in that digital flyer.

1. Light shows. Same as the TV gantries for more TV views. We have no choice. We have to adhere to their rules. The money has to be spent on them and we wouldn't have the money to spend on them if it wasn't for the Prem.

2. Selhurst referred to as Stadium Bowl. WTF? I mean, what THE F*CK? I've never heard that, ever. Maybe if you're watching via a US or Canadian channel.

3. Since admin our teams have been built on local lads? Clyne, Scannell, Zaha, Punch (who was a Wimbledon youth and only came when we could fulfil his ambition, not that I'm knocking him for it). Apologies if I've missed out any others but you can count those on the fingers of one hand, over 7 seasons.

4. Leaders working as a team. 'LOSING' Jedinak and sidelining others who inspired the support? Erm, it was the manager they couldn't stop singing about who 'LOST' ahem, Jedinak and sidelined others, nobody else. Ask Speroni next time you speak to him. Pulis wanted characters and they disliked him. Pardew doesn't want them and they adore him.

5.'As we move towards a bland generic Premier League identity, we change expectations which lead to negativity.' Just f*** off. If you were old enough to be at Highbury when we went down, or any season from the top tier then you will know how much it hurts, globalisation or not, and how much we want to stay.

Do us all a favour. We respect the atmosphere but there are 24,000 fans at home, not 60. And tell the media attention seeking idiot with the 'Corruption not welcome' banner to think about our future and not his messages to the world. Nobody cares. We care about staying up.

Just get behind the players and stop trying to kid yourselves the world is listening.

(I agree with not making the away fans feel cosy)

Spot on.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Jan 17 1.01pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Seems it's made it into the Guardian somehow. Is this really news?

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Jan 17 1.17pm

Originally posted by JRW2

I think "we'd do a bloody site better on the pre and half time entertainment" if we didn't have it. I'm bound to be in a minority on this, but I - and the people around me - like to have a chat about the previous game, have a moan about xyz player(s), talk about the opposition, etc. But with the bloody racket constantly coming aver the public address system (particularly that fake crowd noise that goes on and on) it's almost impossible to have a conversation. I listened last night to Spurs v Chelsea on the radio, and the commentators were competing before kick-off with a barrage of artificial noise there. So it's not just us.

I don't mind turning away from a conversation to watch the Crystals, but how pitiful and amateurish does it look when, on a cold wet night, there are only about eight of them? If you can't do something properly, don't do it at all. Even synchronising the flashing of the lights with the music (an infantile idea anyway) seems to be beyond our capabilities.

I think I must end my rant before I damage myself.

Never really bothered with the half time entertainment, as like most people I go for a p*ss and try not to come back in until just before kick off.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Jan 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by regal_eagle

It's what you were implying though.

As for a good business model - of which football is unique and is unlike almost all other businesses, and alienating paying customers, people don't buy an Away football ticket hoping they might get a free t-shirt or hear their clubs' song over the speaker system.

Tickets have been made cheaper for Away supporters than the majority of Home supporters. There's also far more chance that any Away fan already lives in London, than a Palace fan living in any of the 'Away' cities - although that is a slightly different point.

I do think it vulgar that Palace have footed the bill for Cantona shirts to be printed and handed out for free, in the very stadium where he had his most infamous moment of attacking a 'Home' supporter.

Did that actually happen? I'm surprised it never got a mention on here, or elsewhere. Were they actually funded by CPFC2010?

By the way, most fans I know who go to away games tend to pick the games based on their experience of previous away days (of which the game is a part).

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Jan 17 1.23pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

If all they allege is correct about cantona shirts being given out, music being piped into their areas and so on none of that has anything to do with pardew. The man has gone and I accept people didn't like him but blaming him for everything at the club is crazy. People need to start taking a long hard look at parish and co , yes they saved us from administration I have heard this argument but what is going on at the club in terms of players going , who we sign , lights , music and facilities comes down to him and the investors. Time people woke up and accepted this and took the rose tinted glasses off

Whilst I haven't been to every game this season, I haven't actually heard any music being played for the away fans. And if its only audible in the away section, then who gives a s**t.

Likewise the Cantona T-Shirts - seems very unlikely to me.

 


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Barcelona Based Fan Flag No longer Barcelona, now living in... 06 Jan 17 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Barcelona Based Fan Add Barcelona Based Fan as a friend

Don't like the lights or the goal scorer being blasted out over the tannoy then repeated by the fans.

Have no real issue with the Hf other than wonder what do they want? L1? and only true hardcore 10k to turn up at Selhurst, or do they want all the limelight?
Whether they like it or not they're also a new breed of football fan and part of the modern game in the Uk
We all have to put up with each other & the fact we're in the premier league and it's moved on to try and have a more attractive appeal to a wider tv audience rather than simply a boring football match.


 


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:49 PM
I don't mind palace to be fair. Much better club than tinpot Charlton and Brighton

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paperhat Flag croydon 06 Jan 17 1.40pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

What happened to Mr Ilie? didnt he have his hearing just before xmas? - he wasnt at the Swansea game this week either....has he been sent to the tower??

 


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rikz Flag Croydon 06 Jan 17 1.48pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by fed up eagle

Do we actually play the opposing team's anthems in the concourse? Really? I'm not so sure but if that's the case then that needs to stop.
I'm pretty sceptical about all this. I would say the person most responsible for ruining the club's identity is Pardew. Thanks to him the team is characterless at the moment, there's no real leaders. What on earth was AP thinking trying to turn us into a tippy tappy football team FFS? We're about being a competitive and durable team. We may not always beat the big boys but they knew they'd been in a game with us.

Definitely play the away fans anthems, if you walk around the Arthur before the game you can hear their songs blasting out. Why the club does this I have no isea.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Jan 17 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The last 'local lads' we 'built' a team around were Gareth Southgate and Zaha as he was so crucial to going up before he moved on and then there's those a bit further afield in Lewisham like Ian Wright, Ben Watson etc.

The only time a team has b en truly 'built' with local lads was the team of the '80s and when DF took over but Clyne was ready to go and Scannell wasn't quite good enough. (The online meltdown when he and Ambrose were sold was monumental)

 


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