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Rachid Rachid Rachid 02 Jan 17 10.58am
Originally posted by NEILLO I respect your opinion but share none of it. What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it. Townsend was not '' amazing '' nor was Cabaye. I've actually seen Townsend play worse than that, but still.....Cabaye has the class to play at the highest level, but I don't think him and Punch in the same team works. As for the substitutions, we have an important game tomorrow night which looks like a ' six pointer ', with minimum recovery time. I think Sam did the right thing. Arsenal were coasting at that point, but I'm sure that had we nicked a goal back, they had several more gears to go up if they wanted to. I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely. Interesting observation that I hadn't made but was reaching the conclusion that Ledley, MacArthur with Cabaye in front would be our "strongest" line up at the moment. Someone told me we've not won a game in the three years we've been back in the prem without Puncheon playing at some point (can't be bothered to research whether this is true)
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Originally posted by NEILLO

I respect your opinion but share none of it.

What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it.

Townsend was not '' amazing '' nor was Cabaye. I've actually seen Townsend play worse than that, but still.....Cabaye has the class to play at the highest level, but I don't think him and Punch in the same team works.

As for the substitutions, we have an important game tomorrow night which looks like a ' six pointer ', with minimum recovery time. I think Sam did the right thing. Arsenal were coasting at that point, but I'm sure that had we nicked a goal back, they had several more gears to go up if they wanted to.

I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely.

Interesting observation that I hadn't made but was reaching the conclusion that Ledley, MacArthur with Cabaye in front would be our "strongest" line up at the moment.

Someone told me we've not won a game in the three years we've been back in the prem without Puncheon playing at some point (can't be bothered to research whether this is true)

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aashman12 02 Jan 17 10.59am
Originally posted by NEILLO I respect your opinion but share none of it. What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it. Townsend was not '' amazing '' nor was Cabaye. I've actually seen Townsend play worse than that, but still.....Cabaye has the class to play at the highest level, but I don't think him and Punch in the same team works. As for the substitutions, we have an important game tomorrow night which looks like a ' six pointer ', with minimum recovery time. I think Sam did the right thing. Arsenal were coasting at that point, but I'm sure that had we nicked a goal back, they had several more gears to go up if they wanted to. I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely. Then I'd suggest punch drops out for a bit. What's he actually do these days.
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02 Jan 17 10.59am

Originally posted by NEILLO

I respect your opinion but share none of it.

What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it.

As for the substitutions, we have an important game tomorrow night which looks like a ' six pointer ', with minimum recovery time. I think Sam did the right thing. Arsenal were coasting at that point, but I'm sure that had we nicked a goal back, they had several more gears to go up if they wanted to.

I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely.

Then I'd suggest punch drops out for a bit. What's he actually do these days.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 02 Jan 17 11.17am
Originally posted by aashman12 Then I'd suggest punch drops out for a bit. What's he actually do these days. Thought he held / carried the ball quite well yesterday compared to most in fairness.
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Rachid Rachid Rachid

02 Jan 17 11.17am

Originally posted by aashman12

Then I'd suggest punch drops out for a bit. What's he actually do these days.

Thought he held / carried the ball quite well yesterday compared to most in fairness.

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SeagullHunter Reading 02 Jan 17 11.26am
I havent seen palace completely outplayed, outfought and outthought this season, until yesterday. We were shambolic. Hate to say it but at least Pardew's teams fought hard and we were always just edged out. For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us. Dont let Cabaye go
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Reading 02 Jan 17 11.26am

I havent seen palace completely outplayed, outfought and outthought this season, until yesterday. We were shambolic. Hate to say it but at least Pardew's teams fought hard and we were always just edged out.

For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us.

Dont let Cabaye go

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aashman12 02 Jan 17 11.29am
Originally posted by SeagullHunter I havent seen palace completely outplayed, outfought and outthought this season, until yesterday. We were shambolic. Hate to say it but at least Pardew's teams fought hard and we were always just edged out. For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us. You haven't seen us much then. Utd at home was embarrassing bar 10 mins. Liverpool the same, Swansea Away was all the above you mentioned. Pards sides only showed up when the opponents took their foot off the gas
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02 Jan 17 11.29am

Originally posted by SeagullHunter

For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us.

You haven't seen us much then. Utd at home was embarrassing bar 10 mins. Liverpool the same, Swansea Away was all the above you mentioned. Pards sides only showed up when the opponents took their foot off the gas

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Bomber 1945 Northampton 02 Jan 17 11.34am
Originally posted by thegreatlardino wot a rubbish manager, bring back pardew, if he had stayed on we would have won 2-3! do wonder sometimes about this site! I'd give the wacki bacci a rest if I were you son, it's obviously messed your head up!
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Northampton 02 Jan 17 11.34am

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

wot a rubbish manager, bring back pardew, if he had stayed on we would have won 2-3! do wonder sometimes about this site!

I'd give the wacki bacci a rest if I were you son, it's obviously messed your head up!

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Bomber 1945 Northampton 02 Jan 17 11.45am
Originally posted by mattteo I do actually. I can name you over 100 players that would cost less than 10 million and would improve the Crystal Palace side this winter. But you wouldn't understand anyway.... Go on then name them!?
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Northampton 02 Jan 17 11.45am

Originally posted by mattteo

I do actually. I can name you over 100 players that would cost less than 10 million and would improve the Crystal Palace side this winter.

But you wouldn't understand anyway....

Go on then name them!?

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mattteo 02 Jan 17 2.38pm
Originally posted by Bomber 1945 Go on then name them!? Are you trying to be smart or just lazy to click on the previous pages?? Edited by mattteo (02 Jan 2017 2.38pm) Edited by mattteo (02 Jan 2017 2.38pm)
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02 Jan 17 2.38pm

Originally posted by Bomber 1945

Go on then name them!?

Are you trying to be smart or just lazy to click on the previous pages??

Edited by mattteo (02 Jan 2017 2.38pm)

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Username Horsham 02 Jan 17 5.27pm
Originally posted by NEILLO I respect your opinion but share none of it. What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it. Townsend was not '' amazing '' nor was Cabaye. I've actually seen Townsend play worse than that, but still.....Cabaye has the class to play at the highest level, but I don't think him and Punch in the same team works. As for the substitutions, we have an important game tomorrow night which looks like a ' six pointer ', with minimum recovery time. I think Sam did the right thing. Arsenal were coasting at that point, but I'm sure that had we nicked a goal back, they had several more gears to go up if they wanted to. I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely. In all honestly, the only proper solution at full back is the transfer market. Anything else is just a bandage, and we can't afford that. We have to sign that. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 02 Jan 17 5.27pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

I respect your opinion but share none of it.

What is your solution to the full back problem ? Select Fryers ?? I'm interested in hearing it.

I think you clearly have an issue with BFS - well that's your problem. I don't care who the manager is, I want the club to stay in the PL. Under Pardew that looked increasingly unlikely.

In all honestly, the only proper solution at full back is the transfer market.

Anything else is just a bandage, and we can't afford that.

We have to sign that.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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srh london 02 Jan 17 7.57pm
Originally posted by mattteo This manager should be freakin' crucified (well, figuratively, of course) He's worse than the last one. Didn't chabge a thing, still playing with Kelly and Ward (a right footed player) as wingbacks. Townsend and Cabaye were amazing against Arsenal up to this minute (well, amazing for Palace's level). They're the ones who have run the most and covered the most ground. They can absolutely press and compete at this level. Cabaye in the center is essential. Benteke wouldn't press if Cabaye wouldn't give him the impulse. You just can't, absolutely CAN'T, substitute one of those players when the team is pushing for agoal and getting back into the game. He had to sub them both because of the Swansea game. Any manager eoklxvd done the same. Seems pretty obvious and sensible to me
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london 02 Jan 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by mattteo

This manager should be freakin' crucified (well, figuratively, of course)

He's worse than the last one. Didn't chabge a thing, still playing with Kelly and Ward (a right footed player) as wingbacks.

Townsend and Cabaye were amazing against Arsenal up to this minute (well, amazing for Palace's level). They're the ones who have run the most and covered the most ground. They can absolutely press and compete at this level. Cabaye in the center is essential. Benteke wouldn't press if Cabaye wouldn't give him the impulse.

You just can't, absolutely CAN'T, substitute one of those players when the team is pushing for agoal and getting back into the game.

He had to sub them both because of the Swansea game. Any manager eoklxvd done the same. Seems pretty obvious and sensible to me

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srh london 02 Jan 17 7.58pm
Originally posted by SeagullHunter I havent seen palace completely outplayed, outfought and outthought this season, until yesterday. We were shambolic. Hate to say it but at least Pardew's teams fought hard and we were always just edged out. For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us. Er...Chelsea a few weeks ago springs to mind immediately
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london 02 Jan 17 7.58pm

Originally posted by SeagullHunter

For those who were there yesterday, you can surely admit that should have been 4,5-0 Arsenal, the scoreline flattered us.

Er...Chelsea a few weeks ago springs to mind immediately

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soulboy Lewisham 02 Jan 17 9.19pm
Originally posted by mattteo Pape Souare out (I never liked his playing, even though some teams would pay money for him), I haven't seen Fryers enough, but he should be out too. Now I'm convinced you are a substance misuser!! Pape Souare cost us less than half of what we paid for Townsend but has made more than double the contribution!! His work rate alone puts AT in the shadows. Pape is sorely missed imo!! "Deviance is a freedom enjoyed in a city of lightly engaged strangers"
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Lewisham 02 Jan 17 9.19pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Pape Souare out (I never liked his playing, even though some teams would pay money for him), I haven't seen Fryers enough, but he should be out too.

Now I'm convinced you are a substance misuser!! Pape Souare cost us less than half of what we paid for Townsend but has made more than double the contribution!! His work rate alone puts AT in the shadows. Pape is sorely missed imo!!

"Deviance is a freedom enjoyed in a city of lightly engaged strangers"

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