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The Dolphin 15 Dec 16 1.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Inapickle
..coincidence. Mr Inapickle - I have decided that you must post tongue in cheek and are just being a bit tricky for the fun of it because you can't be serious - surely? Edited by The Dolphin (15 Dec 2016 1.14pm)
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paperhat croydon 15 Dec 16 1.19pm | |
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I'll acknowledge the bad luck for sure but then as you make your own luck, its all of our own doing. How many of these luck chasers will happilly sit there at the end of the season once we're back in the Championship and just shrug their shoulders with an "oh well, we've had some bad luck this season haven't we?" Other teams have "bad luck" and change stuff, we seem to just keep rattling along doing nowt about it.
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 15 Dec 16 1.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Flightsequence
You know what. You do make some very valid points. I too was a bit confused by the look of the starting lineup. But, the whole square pegs in round holes thing is probably due to him not trusting most of them. The Ward scenario is because he doesn't trust Kelly, or Fryers defending, and Tomkins can probably only play one side at full back. The reason why Townsend is benched is because he wants to play on the same side as Zaha and is sulking, and with Zaha's form it aint happening. Maybe the players cant be ar*** to play for Pardew and then it really is time to get rid. Seriously, I'm not a Pardew lover, but just can't stand it when people just jump on anything to batter him with regardless. I think we are too open at the back and maybe Pardews tactics are a bit gung ho. So hopefully the new man when appointed will balance the ambition to win games. However, we may go back to the, we're drawing, sit tight, and make no subs to change the game scenario. I also can't see us getting anything against Chelsea or Arsenal, but have you really ever expected to? So its a new manager, some player who can be bothered, and another new system. Fingers crossed. Please don't let it be a backward step with a new up and coming manager or Fat Sam. We need a proper master tactician. Not unless we all chip in with our ideas and pass them on. Now where's my old Trevor Francis tracksuit. You see when you look at it, it's blindingly obvious whose to blame here. Look at the players highlighted, ask yourself who brought them in ? add Lee Sako Mutch and the loan spell of Bamford and you get a picture for the type of player he has brought in. I do have to take issue with the jump on anything comment. It's a jump on anything, it's the same errors over and over again, not being able to defend from set pieces, defend a lead for more than 2 minutes or seemingly hold it together without McCarthur. And it's the same reasons today as it was 18 months ago, we have gone from a well drilled, well organised counter attacking team, to a disorganised, rabble who couldn't stop a beech ball with a barn door. But apparently the playing staff have improved since Pulis, so how do you explain the 6 in 41 win ratio, if the players are better, it has to be the way they are managed that is the problem, and that old chum is the fault of Alan Pardew. I know Pulis was a robbing b****** but you can not deny the team has gone backwards since Mildew took over.
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The Dolphin 15 Dec 16 1.39pm | |
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Top post!!
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Flightsequence 15 Dec 16 2.07pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyh
You see when you look at it, it's blindingly obvious whose to blame here. Look at the players highlighted, ask yourself who brought them in ? add Lee Sako Mutch and the loan spell of Bamford and you get a picture for the type of player he has brought in. I do have to take issue with the jump on anything comment. It's a jump on anything, it's the same errors over and over again, not being able to defend from set pieces, defend a lead for more than 2 minutes or seemingly hold it together without McCarthur. And it's the same reasons today as it was 18 months ago, we have gone from a well drilled, well organised counter attacking team, to a disorganised, rabble who couldn't stop a beech ball with a barn door. But apparently the playing staff have improved since Pulis, so how do you explain the 6 in 41 win ratio, if the players are better, it has to be the way they are managed that is the problem, and that old chum is the fault of Alan Pardew. I know Pulis was a robbing b****** but you can not deny the team has gone backwards since Mildew took over. To be fair, these were before the investment, and I think we have stepped up a level with other signings since then and hopefully again in January. I'm not sure we have the players to counter like we used too. Once Bolasie went, the speed element went from our game, although, his finishing and final ball were poor at times. Defences only have to worry about Zaha now and the element of speed in numbers has gone. But one thing as you said is glaringly obvious and that is our poor defending. As I said in a previous post, when the new manager arrives, lets see what he can do with the same group of players. I think if Pardew goes I think the whole coaching staff should follow and start a fresh. We have been thin on the ground with specialist coaches for too long. Lets see what happens in the coming month. One thing is for sure, a lack of points is coming with the opposition faced.
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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 15 Dec 16 2.20pm | |
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Danny good posts but for the record only Tompkins was a Pardew signing.
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Inapickle South West 15 Dec 16 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by gambler
I did say we "could" have got a point. But of course none of us will ever know for sure will we? ..yep, it's impossible.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 15 Dec 16 2.34pm | |
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Pardew has had some bad luck. But he has also had some good luck at points. As has been mentioned, Man U had a perfectly good goal disallowed and a fairly blatant penalty denied. On the flip side they also had a red card not given and got away with it for the first goal (although the handball isn't easy to give as I don't think either linesman or ref are able to see). Did taking off McArthur yesterday directly result in the 2nd goal? Probably not. But did taking off McArthur for a striker help give the players a sense of recklessness that meant clinging onto a barely deserved point against a huge team with masses of talent? Absolutely. Pardew is giving them the mentality that it is better to lose and risk winning, then draw. And that is suicidal at points. Burnley, Swansea, and Man United games - all lost when in winning or drawing positions when we should have just stuck 9 or 10 men behind the ball.
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The Dolphin 15 Dec 16 2.35pm | |
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Kelly and Fryers were bought by others not AP. Edited by The Dolphin (15 Dec 2016 2.35pm)
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Inapickle South West 15 Dec 16 3.19pm | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
Mr Inapickle - I have decided that you must post tongue in cheek and are just being a bit tricky for the fun of it because you can't be serious - surely? Edited by The Dolphin (15 Dec 2016 1.14pm) ..so are we saying that with McArthur on the pitch we don't make mistakes but without him we do, do you really want me to list all the silly goals given away with him involved in the team because I can, I'll just do moan.u for starters, he was there for ledley's lovely handball and he was still there for the refs lovely interpretation of offside for Mata's goal...of course he watched also the beautiful handling of the ball for their wonderful first goal and then he watched in awe as we brilliantly played them offside.
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Bensy2812 Tonbridge 15 Dec 16 3.28pm | |
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only question I had about last night was the introduction of Campbell over townsend, we will never know but if townsend came on he might of kpt utd on the back foot and even swapping yohan out and leaving Mccarther on instead for the full 90 mins? wtf was happening in the homesdale last night couple of lads throwing handbags at each other
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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 15 Dec 16 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Inapickle
..so are we saying that with McArthur on the pitch we don't make mistakes but without him we do, do you really want me to list all the silly goals given away with him involved in the team because I can, I'll just do moan.u for starters, he was there for ledley's lovely handball and he was still there for the refs lovely interpretation of offside for Mata's goal...of course he watched also the beautiful handling of the ball for their wonderful first goal and then he watched in awe as we brilliantly played them offside. Inapickle I have stuck up for AP but that's it now.As you say above Mr Murray,he could of kept him.
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