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 Midlands Eagle  05 Dec 16 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by Andy_G
He said they don't know anything about football, I'd say he did. No he didn't. Look at Beastie's quote just above for what he actually said
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| Midlands Eagle 05 Dec 16 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Beastie
Such a bizarre quote is definitely worth comment. I think most people would see it as staggeringly arrogant. I disagree as I'm sure that most non Pardew haters would view it as no more than clumsy. Pardew is a football manager and not a diplomat and most Palace fans will be aware that he is not a polished public speaker
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 05 Dec 16 3.42pm |
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Anyone who thinks this was just a slip of the tongue or due to not being practised at public speaking is being wildly naive. Pardew's been in top level football long enough to know everything he says and does will be analysed, especially when the spotlight's already firmly on him. I think what's been going on behind the scenes has been made clear by his actions after the game. The way I see it is that the Americans, alarmed by 2016's disastrous form, have been pushing to see AP replaced. Parish has resisted this and urged them to give him until the Hull game. After the Swansea debacle the pressure increased and AP was staring down the barrel, with only Parish prepared to give him more time. Getting the win yesterday was justification (to a point) of Parish's stance and Padrew wanted to stick two fingers up at the Yanks by publicly thanking Parish and having a pop at Harris & Blitzer with his "don't know a lot about football" remark. I can only imagine how Parish felt about that comment, stuck as he is in the middle of AP & the Americans. I am sure the Americans will have noted that remark and will look to force Parish's hand if and when the next bad run comes along. The problem is if we limp along to Christmas picking up enough points to just about keep Pardew safe, only to embark on another shocking run in the new year when Big Sam has been snapped up by another club in trouble, and it's too late for a new man to use the January window effectively. The result yesterday was great for the Parish/Pardew axis and puts daylight between us and the bottom 3, but unless it continues, may prove to be unhelpful to the club's long-term prospects this season.
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 05 Dec 16 3.48pm |
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I am sure the Americans will have noted that remark and will look to force Parish's hand if and when the next bad run comes along. The problem is if we limp along to Christmas picking up enough points to just about keep Pardew safe, only to embark on another shocking run in the new year when Big Sam has been snapped up by another club in trouble, and it's too late for a new man to use the January window effectively. Seth,so what do you do if AP goes, Sam comes in and loses 6 on the trot.?
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Dec 16 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Seth
Anyone who thinks this was just a slip of the tongue or due to not being practised at public speaking is being wildly naive. Pardew's been in top level football long enough to know everything he says and does will be analysed, especially when the spotlight's already firmly on him. I think what's been going on behind the scenes has been made clear by his actions after the game. The way I see it is that the Americans, alarmed by 2016's disastrous form, have been pushing to see AP replaced. Parish has resisted this and urged them to give him until the Hull game. After the Swansea debacle the pressure increased and AP was staring down the barrel, with only Parish prepared to give him more time. Getting the win yesterday was justification (to a point) of Parish's stance and Padrew wanted to stick two fingers up at the Yanks by publicly thanking Parish and having a pop at Harris & Blitzer with his "don't know a lot about football" remark. I can only imagine how Parish felt about that comment, stuck as he is in the middle of AP & the Americans. I am sure the Americans will have noted that remark and will look to force Parish's hand if and when the next bad run comes along. The problem is if we limp along to Christmas picking up enough points to just about keep Pardew safe, only to embark on another shocking run in the new year when Big Sam has been snapped up by another club in trouble, and it's too late for a new man to use the January window effectively. The result yesterday was great for the Parish/Pardew axis and puts daylight between us and the bottom 3, but unless it continues, may prove to be unhelpful to the club's long-term prospects this season. I suspect that that's pretty much the truth of it. For Pardew, trying to play off members of the board against each other could ultimately prove to be a dangerous game.
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| Midlands Eagle 05 Dec 16 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by Seth
Anyone who thinks this was just a slip of the tongue or due to not being practised at public speaking is being wildly naive. Pardew's been in top level football long enough to know everything he says and does will be analysed, especially when the spotlight's already firmly on him. I believe that Pardew had his own media consultant when he was at Newcastle, such was his poor performances in front of the media but perhaps I'm just being wildly naive
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| steeleye20 Croydon 05 Dec 16 4.00pm |
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What's all this stuff about Big Sam? He will get back somewhere altho he is getting on but with what SP is trying to build definitely not. Not that he is a bad guy don't think that he was contrite. Pards just belt up ok
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Dec 16 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by alaneagle1
I am sure the Americans will have noted that remark and will look to force Parish's hand if and when the next bad run comes along. The problem is if we limp along to Christmas picking up enough points to just about keep Pardew safe, only to embark on another shocking run in the new year when Big Sam has been snapped up by another club in trouble, and it's too late for a new man to use the January window effectively. Seth,so what do you do if AP goes, Sam comes in and loses 6 on the trot.? It's not just losing 6 on the trot though is it? It's the worst form in 2016 of any team in all 4 divisions, and an alarming tendency to go on horrific runs. I don't believe many managers would survive form like that, Big Sam or otherwise. Edited by Seth (05 Dec 2016 4.12pm)
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Dec 16 4.17pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I believe that Pardew had his own media consultant when he was at Newcastle, such was his poor performances in front of the media but perhaps I'm just being wildly naive I think he knew exactly what he was doing and was sending a message to the Americans to back off. Whether that backfires or not remains to be seen, but I can't imagine they're happy about being publicly told they know nothing about football by their employee, and I suspect they'll demand Pardew's head when the next dodgy run comes along.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Dec 16 4.17pm |
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Do people on here truly believe that what Pardew said was a 'calculated' attack on the American investors as far as he was concerned ? Do you believe he had pre-planned what he said ? Edited by Willo (05 Dec 2016 4.31pm)
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Littlebogreek  05 Dec 16 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Do people on here truly believe that Pardew made a 'calculated' attack on the American investors ? Do you believe he had pre-planned what he said ? I'm genuinely not sure. does seem a daft thing to say if it wasn't planned and he doesn't strike me as daft. That's not to say he said it in order to get the sack and a pay off but there may be other motives behind it.
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| Jacey 05 Dec 16 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by Seth
It's not just losing 6 on the trot though is it? It's the worst form in 2016 of any team in all 4 divisions, and an alarming tendency to go on horrific runs. I don't believe many managers would survive form like that, Big Sam or otherwise. Edited by Seth (05 Dec 2016 4.12pm) Common knowledge that Bob Bradley's day's are apparently numbered at Swansea already and that Big Sam is being discussed as a likely replacement.
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