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elgrande Flag bedford 22 Feb 17 5.47pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Where have I or anyone denied this. What I object to is that the media highlight Muslim groomers/offenders over others who may be guilty of the same.

If you know that it's prevalent why don't you report it.

Edited by nickgusset (22 Feb 2017 5.17pm)

If I knew about it ,believe me I would not report it...

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Feb 17 5.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Do they?

That smacks of whataboutery to me.
The liberal/left position is to claim that the foreigner always gets the blame, and when they are in fact to blame they then point out that it's not just them.
What I want to hear is a clear and unequivocal condemnation with no whatabouts.
Sometimes foreign culture brings the undesirable and that has always been one reasonable argument against mass immigration. Another is the political and practical dangers of pandering to minorities purely for self interest.


I condemn all paedophiles and grooming gangs.

There. Happy.


 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Feb 17 5.53pm

Originally posted by elgrande

If I knew about it ,believe me I would not report it...

Then how do you know it's prevalant?

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 22 Feb 17 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You would have if he was Muslim.

Too true.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 22 Feb 17 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't remember that bit.

You haven't been paying attention then, have you?

3/10

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 22 Feb 17 6.37pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Then how do you know it's prevalant?

So then excluding the "Mail" there have been reports of it for years.
Or do you only believe things you read if it suits you.
Rotherham
Rochdale
Dewsbury
Oxford
Aylesbury.
All have been widely reported.
And just to be clear I am just as sickend if not more so by the establishment cover ups.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Feb 17 6.40pm

Originally posted by elgrande

So then excluding the "Mail" there have been reports of it for years.
Or do you only believe things you read if it suits you.
Rotherham
Rochdale
Dewsbury
Oxford
Aylesbury.
All have been widely reported.
And just to be clear I am just as sickend if not more so by the establishment cover ups.

Yes and the perps were caught.

Do you make the assumption that where it still goes on that it's more than likely to be muslims doing it?

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 22 Feb 17 6.46pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yes and the perps were caught.

Do you make the assumption that where it still goes on that it's more than likely to be muslims doing it?

In the said areas yes....and have they all been caught,how do we know.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Feb 17 7.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Very.

I didn't see any singing praises. What I do see is a lot of virtue signaling muppets expressing selective moral outrage over an observation.

If the age of consent just happened to be 14, as it once was, rather than 16, would you still be wetting your lefty knickers?

And I have a probelme with people complaining about racism wher none exists. You know the type. White, middle class, probably not working....

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Feb 2017 11.47am)


I'm not rascist but, have you seen all those foreigners on the news.
I'm not rascist but, those muslims eh?


Why do you think people wot complain about rascism are probably not working?

Does a rascist realise they are rascist?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Feb 17 7.07pm

Originally posted by elgrande

In the said areas yes....and have they all been caught,how do we know.

I can see why you think it's more likely to be a muslim, but... From [Link]

A report for the children's commissioner in 2012 found there were 1,514 perpetrators. Of these, 545 were white, 415 were Asian and 244 were black. The ethnicity of 21% of perpetrators was not recorded. Attempts to analyse the Asian figure further runs into problems. Just 35 of the 415 Asians are recorded as having pakistani heritage and thus highly likely to be Muslim, and only five are recorded as being from a Bangladeshi background. The heritage of 366 of the Asian group is not stated in those figures.

However, the view in different parts of law enforcement is that it is wrong to take these figures and cases and say the race or religion of the perpetrator leads to them committing these crimes.

A more credible link, says one senior source involved in bringing the criminals to justice, are their occupations. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said the demography of certain areas and the makeup of the night-time economy explained the over-representation of Asian offenders.

The source said: "Young vulnerable girls migrate to the night-time economy, where they come across taxi drivers and people working in takeaways, who are more likely to be Asian. It is better to focus on the professions of offenders, not their race or religion."

Meanwhile, group grooming is a small part of the sexual abuse threat facing Britain's children. Some of those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs".

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators.

As if to highlight the point, on Monday there was a scheduled meeting at the Department for Education of several departments and concerned groups. The topic of Asian gangs was discussed, on a day when Stuart Hazell, a white man, pleaded guilty to murdering 12-year-old Tia Sharp, the granddaughter of his partner, in whom he had developed a sexual interest.

Court cases later this year will see allegations against mixed race sex gangs, including one with Asian and white suspects, and another with Asian and African men. Cases involving white suspects did not gain the same media attention as those where Asian gang members were convicted.

The idea that these are criminals striking when the opportunity arises, regardless of race, is given credence by the leader of the grooming gang in Rochdale. Shabir Ahmed was jailed for attacking a young Asian female as well as young white females. His case suggests opportunity, not race, was the major factor in whom he attacked.

Leading British Muslim groups are vowing to take action. Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain, said it wanted imams to use sermons to urge Muslims to report anyone they suspected of grooming and abuse.

The MCB has organised a conference for next month. Mogra said: "It is not helpful to give a race or religious label to this criminality. Reporting it is a civic and a religious duty."

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 22 Feb 17 8.00pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I can see why you think it's more likely to be a muslim, but... From [Link]

A report for the children's commissioner in 2012 found there were 1,514 perpetrators. Of these, 545 were white, 415 were Asian and 244 were black. The ethnicity of 21% of perpetrators was not recorded. Attempts to analyse the Asian figure further runs into problems. Just 35 of the 415 Asians are recorded as having pakistani heritage and thus highly likely to be Muslim, and only five are recorded as being from a Bangladeshi background. The heritage of 366 of the Asian group is not stated in those figures.

However, the view in different parts of law enforcement is that it is wrong to take these figures and cases and say the race or religion of the perpetrator leads to them committing these crimes.

A more credible link, says one senior source involved in bringing the criminals to justice, are their occupations. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said the demography of certain areas and the makeup of the night-time economy explained the over-representation of Asian offenders.

The source said: "Young vulnerable girls migrate to the night-time economy, where they come across taxi drivers and people working in takeaways, who are more likely to be Asian. It is better to focus on the professions of offenders, not their race or religion."

Meanwhile, group grooming is a small part of the sexual abuse threat facing Britain's children. Some of those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs".

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators.

As if to highlight the point, on Monday there was a scheduled meeting at the Department for Education of several departments and concerned groups. The topic of Asian gangs was discussed, on a day when Stuart Hazell, a white man, pleaded guilty to murdering 12-year-old Tia Sharp, the granddaughter of his partner, in whom he had developed a sexual interest.

Court cases later this year will see allegations against mixed race sex gangs, including one with Asian and white suspects, and another with Asian and African men. Cases involving white suspects did not gain the same media attention as those where Asian gang members were convicted.

The idea that these are criminals striking when the opportunity arises, regardless of race, is given credence by the leader of the grooming gang in Rochdale. Shabir Ahmed was jailed for attacking a young Asian female as well as young white females. His case suggests opportunity, not race, was the major factor in whom he attacked.

Leading British Muslim groups are vowing to take action. Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain, said it wanted imams to use sermons to urge Muslims to report anyone they suspected of grooming and abuse.

The MCB has organised a conference for next month. Mogra said: "It is not helpful to give a race or religious label to this criminality. Reporting it is a civic and a religious duty."

I don't really understand what you are trying to get accross with that link.
Of the people who were in that survey nearly a third were Asian, but they said most couldn't be determined.
And if the mcb says it's wrong to bring race or religion into it,they Finnish up say it's your religious duty to report it!
And they also say the the vulnerable girls end to gather at night ..when "Asian and black men tend to work"...sort of proves the point then.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Feb 17 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

You haven't been paying attention then, have you?

3/10

Would you like to repost the bit where he approves of pedophiles.

 

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