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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Sep 16 10.39pm
Originally posted by Willo Kindly refer to the posts in question. I've asked you to either reference them or state, again, your reasons. This is not difficult, Willo. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 27 Sep 16 10.39pm

Originally posted by Willo

Kindly refer to the posts in question.

I've asked you to either reference them or state, again, your reasons. This is not difficult, Willo.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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palace-metros Redhill 27 Sep 16 10.40pm
Originally posted by Willo if others disagree that is their prerogative. We do. And it is. Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
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palace-metros

Redhill 27 Sep 16 10.40pm

Originally posted by Willo

if others disagree that is their prerogative.

We do. And it is.

Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Sep 16 10.44pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Let me get this straight: it's your opinion (which it's your absolute right to express) but you're not prepared to defend it when/if challenged. That it is inflammatory is, obviously, of no interest to you. And you still believe that people who think you're a troll are wrong? Hogwash. I have defended Clattenburg to the hilt and commented about the incidents in the FA Cup final to which you refer.I'm NOT repeating what I asserted way back then. Please take the trouble to trawl back and have a peek .I am not minded to re-gurgitate what I have stated.I don't see why I should take the trouble to repeat what I said if you cannot be bothered to make the effort to look back.So please don't give me all this baloney about not defending when challenged. And all those who deem me a "Troll" are totally and utterly wrong, I can assure you. Edited by Willo (27 Sep 2016 10.46pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Sep 16 10.44pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Let me get this straight: it's your opinion (which it's your absolute right to express) but you're not prepared to defend it when/if challenged. That it is inflammatory is, obviously, of no interest to you.

And you still believe that people who think you're a troll are wrong?

Hogwash.

I have defended Clattenburg to the hilt and commented about the incidents in the FA Cup final to which you refer.I'm NOT repeating what I asserted way back then. Please take the trouble to trawl back and have a peek .I am not minded to re-gurgitate what I have stated.I don't see why I should take the trouble to repeat what I said if you cannot be bothered to make the effort to look back.So please don't give me all this baloney about not defending when challenged.

And all those who deem me a "Troll" are totally and utterly wrong, I can assure you.

Edited by Willo (27 Sep 2016 10.46pm)

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Adamoc123 Ennis 27 Sep 16 10.49pm
Originally posted by Willo To be brutally honest I am not overly concerned that it is "Inflammatory". At the end of the day all I am doing is expressing my opinion and wouldn't it be boring if we all agreed with one another as part of a gargantuan "Love-In" ? At the end of the day I, and others in football, rate Mark as a top quality referee and if others disagree that is their prerogative. And what would be wrong with that? disagreeing for the sake of boredom is quite piteous given the company you keep. Don't like your use of the term "gargantuan love in" either, comes across as quite homophobic. And you should be concerned if it's "inflammatory". Put it this way.. if you poke a beehive you're going to get stung. The First 90 Minutes Are The Most Important!
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Adamoc123

Ennis 27 Sep 16 10.49pm

Originally posted by Willo

To be brutally honest I am not overly concerned that it is "Inflammatory". At the end of the day all I am doing is expressing my opinion and wouldn't it be boring if we all agreed with one another as part of a gargantuan "Love-In" ?

At the end of the day I, and others in football, rate Mark as a top quality referee and if others disagree that is their prerogative.

And what would be wrong with that? disagreeing for the sake of boredom is quite piteous given the company you keep.
Don't like your use of the term "gargantuan love in" either, comes across as quite homophobic.
And you should be concerned if it's "inflammatory". Put it this way.. if you poke a beehive you're going to get stung.

The First 90 Minutes Are The Most Important!

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Sep 16 11.02pm
Originally posted by Willo Hogwash. I have defended Clattenburg to the hilt and commented about the incidents in the FA Cup final to which you refer.I'm NOT repeating what I asserted way back then. Please take the trouble to trawl back and have a peek .I am not minded to re-gurgitate what I have stated.So please don't give me all this baloney about not defending when challenged. And all those who deem me a "Troll" are totally and utterly wrong, I can assure you. Having a quick trawl through what I can find of your comments (hence my request for you to reference them), you just seem to reiterate that he's a great referee without any plausible explanation why you think this. Moreover, you ignore what are legitimate points raised which challenge this point of view by dismissing them as 'hogwash' and moving on. You don't actually engage with posters who might actually disagree. You do this a lot. You've still not given me or anyone else a credible explanation of your reasoning behind your high opinion of Clattenberg or, crucially, why you think it's good sport to wind up the posting population of the HOL because, I have to tell you, it really does make me think that you're trolling these boards. To defend a referee whose decisions profoundly affected this club, decisions almost uniformly criticised by the footballing world, really makes me wonder what your agenda on the HOL really is. Edited by Cucking Funt (27 Sep 2016 11.03pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 27 Sep 16 11.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

Hogwash.

I have defended Clattenburg to the hilt and commented about the incidents in the FA Cup final to which you refer.I'm NOT repeating what I asserted way back then. Please take the trouble to trawl back and have a peek .I am not minded to re-gurgitate what I have stated.So please don't give me all this baloney about not defending when challenged.

And all those who deem me a "Troll" are totally and utterly wrong, I can assure you.

Having a quick trawl through what I can find of your comments (hence my request for you to reference them), you just seem to reiterate that he's a great referee without any plausible explanation why you think this. Moreover, you ignore what are legitimate points raised which challenge this point of view by dismissing them as 'hogwash' and moving on. You don't actually engage with posters who might actually disagree. You do this a lot.

You've still not given me or anyone else a credible explanation of your reasoning behind your high opinion of Clattenberg or, crucially, why you think it's good sport to wind up the posting population of the HOL because, I have to tell you, it really does make me think that you're trolling these boards. To defend a referee whose decisions profoundly affected this club, decisions almost uniformly criticised by the footballing world, really makes me wonder what your agenda on the HOL really is.

Edited by Cucking Funt (27 Sep 2016 11.03pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Sep 16 11.42pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Having a quick trawl through what I can find of your comments (hence my request for you to reference them), you just seem to reiterate that he's a great referee without any plausible explanation why you think this. Moreover, you ignore what are legitimate points raised which challenge this point of view by dismissing them as 'hogwash' and moving on. You don't actually engage with posters who might actually disagree. You do this a lot. You've still not given me or anyone else a credible explanation of your reasoning behind your high opinion of Clattenberg or, crucially, why you think it's good sport to wind up the posting population of the HOL because, I have to tell you, it really does make me think that you're trolling these boards. To defend a referee whose decisions profoundly affected this club, decisions almost uniformly criticised by the footballing world, really makes me wonder what your agenda on the HOL really is. Edited by Cucking Funt (27 Sep 2016 11.03pm) As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot. I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue. Yes I will defend a referee (Even those other than Clattenburg) if I feel he needs defending even though this might be at variance with many on these boards.Somehow being in a minority makes me a "Troll" - Dear oh dear oh dear. As for being "Universally criticised by the football world" where is the evidence he is despised across this big world of ours ? Provide the facts - I can provide the facts that this so called "Worst referee in football" was awarded THREE major finals this year - Oh this must have grated with all the 'Anti-Clattenburg' brigade !!!! Finally I have NO agenda on HOL other than engaging in debate concerning matters relating to our club and wider issues.I am NOT here to "Wind-Up" people as ludicrously suggested and equally ludicrously I am NOT a so called "Troll".I have been a fervent supporter since the 60s before many on HOL were born ! Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Sep 16 11.42pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Edited by Cucking Funt (27 Sep 2016 11.03pm)

As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot.

I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue.

Yes I will defend a referee (Even those other than Clattenburg) if I feel he needs defending even though this might be at variance with many on these boards.Somehow being in a minority makes me a "Troll" - Dear oh dear oh dear.

As for being "Universally criticised by the football world" where is the evidence he is despised across this big world of ours ? Provide the facts - I can provide the facts that this so called "Worst referee in football" was awarded THREE major finals this year - Oh this must have grated with all the 'Anti-Clattenburg' brigade !!!!

Finally I have NO agenda on HOL other than engaging in debate concerning matters relating to our club and wider issues.I am NOT here to "Wind-Up" people as ludicrously suggested and equally ludicrously I am NOT a so called "Troll".I have been a fervent supporter since the 60s before many on HOL were born !

Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all.

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rossboss29 Portsmouth 27 Sep 16 11.52pm
[Link] Not to worry guys, everton hate the bloke as wel. Look at the picture of the kuyt lunge, not a sending off apparently. But had time to send off 2 everton players in the same game, whilst denying a stonewall everton penalty. And consulted his assitant, steven gerrard, to change his mind and send off hibbert instead of book him. World class ref aint he willo.
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Portsmouth 27 Sep 16 11.52pm

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Not to worry guys, everton hate the bloke as wel. Look at the picture of the kuyt lunge, not a sending off apparently. But had time to send off 2 everton players in the same game, whilst denying a stonewall everton penalty. And consulted his assitant, steven gerrard, to change his mind and send off hibbert instead of book him.

World class ref aint he willo.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 Sep 16 11.38am
Originally posted by Willo As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot. I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue. Yes I will defend a referee (Even those other than Clattenburg) if I feel he needs defending even though this might be at variance with many on these boards.Somehow being in a minority makes me a "Troll" - Dear oh dear oh dear. As for being "Universally criticised by the football world" where is the evidence he is despised across this big world of ours ? Provide the facts - I can provide the facts that this so called "Worst referee in football" was awarded THREE major finals this year - Oh this must have grated with all the 'Anti-Clattenburg' brigade !!!! Finally I have NO agenda on HOL other than engaging in debate concerning matters relating to our club and wider issues.I am NOT here to "Wind-Up" people as ludicrously suggested and equally ludicrously I am NOT a so called "Troll".I have been a fervent supporter since the 60s before many on HOL were born ! Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all. Nicely dodged, Willo. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 28 Sep 16 11.38am

Originally posted by Willo

As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot.

I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue.

Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all.

Nicely dodged, Willo.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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elgrande bedford 28 Sep 16 11.50am
Originally posted by Willo As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot. I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue. Yes I will defend a referee (Even those other than Clattenburg) if I feel he needs defending even though this might be at variance with many on these boards.Somehow being in a minority makes me a "Troll" - Dear oh dear oh dear. As for being "Universally criticised by the football world" where is the evidence he is despised across this big world of ours ? Provide the facts - I can provide the facts that this so called "Worst referee in football" was awarded THREE major finals this year - Oh this must have grated with all the 'Anti-Clattenburg' brigade !!!! Finally I have NO agenda on HOL other than engaging in debate concerning matters relating to our club and wider issues.I am NOT here to "Wind-Up" people as ludicrously suggested and equally ludicrously I am NOT a so called "Troll".I have been a fervent supporter since the 60s before many on HOL were born ! Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all. Well you are not engaging are you FFS,you just come out with the same boring s***e time and time again. If you are the supposed saviour of everything sacred concerning referees then you have to be the bigger man and admit when you and(your man love Clattenberk) are wrong..i.e the cup final.if the rest of the football world said he got it wrong Twice in the cup final,what makes you think you know better than people who have played the game to the highest standard. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 28 Sep 16 11.50am

Originally posted by Willo

As Boris would say "An inverted pyramid of piffle". And if I may say so, grandstanding to boot.

I have provided many an explanation apropos my support for Clattenburg and if you don't feel it is "Credible" that is a matter for yourself and not really my issue.

Finally I have NO agenda on HOL other than engaging in debate concerning matters relating to our club and wider issues.I am NOT here to "Wind-Up" people as ludicrously suggested and equally ludicrously I am NOT a so called "Troll".I have been a fervent supporter since the 60s before many on HOL were born !

Anyway, I have had my say and it is now time for me to retire to bed.Goodnight one and all.

Well you are not engaging are you FFS,you just come out with the same boring s***e time and time again.
If you are the supposed saviour of everything sacred concerning referees then you have to be the bigger man and admit when you and(your man love Clattenberk) are wrong..i.e the cup final.if the rest of the football world said he got it wrong Twice in the cup final,what makes you think you know better than people who have played the game to the highest standard.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Kermit8 Hevon 28 Sep 16 11.53am
Put it this way, my spit Chelsea supporting eldest laughed his head off when I told him we've got Cluntenberg on Friday. I did make him suffer though when the Blues were 0-3 down at half time on Saturday so let him have that one. No one will ever be as bad a ref as Andy D'Urso though. Even you know who would have trouble defending his abilities. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Kermit8

Hevon 28 Sep 16 11.53am

Put it this way, my *spit* Chelsea supporting eldest laughed his head off when I told him we've got Cluntenberg on Friday. I did make him suffer though when the Blues were 0-3 down at half time on Saturday so let him have that one.

No one will ever be as bad a ref as Andy D'Urso though. Even you know who would have trouble defending his abilities.

Big chest and massive boobs

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mailman London 28 Sep 16 12.19pm
Just blank him, that will upset him more than giving him s***
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mailman

London 28 Sep 16 12.19pm

Just blank him, that will upset him more than giving him s***

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Hoof Hearted 28 Sep 16 12.19pm
I don't know why any of you try to engage with Willo/Trolley. If I was a Mod I'd red card him for deliberately winding up other Hol members on this issue. If he cannot be banned, just ignore his posts.... responses to him direct just give oxygen to his trolling tactics. By the way I love the picture of Clattenburg posted by the OP Edited by Hoof Hearted (28 Sep 2016 12.19pm) Attachment: Clattenburg.jpg (26.00Kb)
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Hoof Hearted 28 Sep 16 12.19pm

I don't know why any of you try to engage with Willo/Trolley.

If I was a Mod I'd red card him for deliberately winding up other Hol members on this issue.

If he cannot be banned, just ignore his posts.... responses to him direct just give oxygen to his trolling tactics.

By the way I love the picture of Clattenburg posted by the OP

Edited by Hoof Hearted (28 Sep 2016 12.19pm)

Attachment: Clattenburg.jpg (26.00Kb)

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