Always a keyboard warrior half an hour after the pub shuts isn't there...
I'm not making excuses. If you actually READ what I said:
The reason these attacks are being carried out by nationals of the countries in which these terrorist live (and were often born) is in part due to exactly this fact- a minute proportion of Muslims feel extremely marginalised by their treatment at the hands of bigots and Islamaphobes and to an extent what they are seeing in the sensationalist media.

So, it's PART of the reason these people have murdered, Have you actually read the accounts of friends/families and neighbours of the Paris shooters and others or just been told down the pub by Dave that they were always wrong'uns?
I also went on to cite mental health issues- if you add a feeling or inferiority, of feeling like you're not welcome, to an already skewed personality it is going to end in violence. The only reason (as I've alluded to in a post above) that you don't hear too much about it in the s*** papers of this nation when it's a white bloke with a drug and alcohol problem is a) he doesn't have a religion to pin a flag to or to blame
b) it's not part of an agenda from the horrible bas*** media we have in this country (see Kelvin McKenzie, Katie Hopkins et al

So if actually bothering to research this stuff, reading, watching and listening to Dave down the pub makes me pathetic then yes, I'm pathetic

'Impulse' advert- Advertising campaign whose slogan is expected to change in the light of Rajiv Gandhi's assassination: 'If someone you don't know suddenly offers you flowers- run like f***!'

If you're going to spend the thread waxing lyrical about how all cops are painted with the same brush and the usual, 'the left' guff, also take a moment to realise that if black individuals have carried out attacks then that is on them as individual people, these aren't attacks by the 'black community'. There should be no lumping in of some random black guy passing by with these disgusting acts. It's not a community effort. These are individual people. I dare say we won't find any post of you blaming the 'white community' for anything.

Edited by blackpalacefan (23 Jul 2016 7.19am)

This is in no small part to do with America and their allies, including us, f***ing with that part of the world when we've got no other good reason to do so, except for oil. On a day to day basis, what was already happening in that region for thousands of years, did not effect our lives one tiny iota. Now we've kicked the hornets nest and we're well and truly involved in something that shouldn't be. To the point where people like you are even saying that we shouldn't be making excuses for these dicks. You're right we shouldn't be making excuses. We shouldn't be getting involved in the first instance anyway.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

And Islam has been around how many thousands of years? Did it ever effect our way of lives the way it has in the past 20 years? No, that's because as Rudyard Kipling wrote, never the twain shall meet. And that was the case right up until the west started to bomb and interfere with the east. The proof of that is there, plain for everyone to see. It's just that most choose not to look further than the agenda driven bias media agencies that they choose as their one true source of information.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Facepalm moment of the week.

Enough to mean anything though? What kind of percentage are we talking. I find the whole Trump situation interesting from a rubber necking point of view but I think the odds are stacked against him.