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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 1.47pm
Originally posted by Apollofuzz Yes the golf course is purely an "Expression of interest" to test the water, but the Kenley Areodrome one is a planning application, along with another 2 "Expressions of interest" to Caterham/Chaldon (157 dwellings & 290 odd in Roffes lane), along with 2 (welcome) planning applications for the derelict Rose and Young building in Caterham. One a Hotel & restaurant and the other for more flats. Along with plans to convert Quadrant House to flats, We have already lost the Caterham 7 showroom to retirement Flats. Seems like a lot of development in a very small area. If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 16 1.47pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

Yes the golf course is purely an "Expression of interest" to test the water, but the Kenley Areodrome one is a planning application, along with another 2 "Expressions of interest" to Caterham/Chaldon (157 dwellings & 290 odd in Roffes lane), along with 2 (welcome) planning applications for the derelict Rose and Young building in Caterham. One a Hotel & restaurant and the other for more flats. Along with plans to convert Quadrant House to flats, We have already lost the Caterham 7 showroom to retirement Flats.

Seems like a lot of development in a very small area.

If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it.

Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station.

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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 05 Feb 16 2.03pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Controlling immigration is the most sensible and easiest solution to the housing crisis. Unless we bring in euthanasia the ageing population will continue to be a problem. Building more homes, means building more schools, hospitals etc and we do not have spare land without building on farmland/floodplain or other unsuitable land like beaches, forest, moors or marshland. The left want more immigrants to come because they believe they will vote Labour.... there cannot be any other logical explanation. That doesn't make sense either though, Hoof. They can't vote. At least not until they get citizenship.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Controlling immigration is the most sensible and easiest solution to the housing crisis.

Unless we bring in euthanasia the ageing population will continue to be a problem.

Building more homes, means building more schools, hospitals etc and we do not have spare land without building on farmland/floodplain or other unsuitable land like beaches, forest, moors or marshland.

The left want more immigrants to come because they believe they will vote Labour.... there cannot be any other logical explanation.

That doesn't make sense either though, Hoof. They can't vote. At least not until they get citizenship.

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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 2.07pm
Originally posted by Stuk If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station. Yes I reckon the Kenley one is a done deal (especially after the mysterious fire) They are planning on converting the offices in Quadrant house Caterham high street into flats. Anything at Rose and Young would be an improvement one application is for flats. I think this is from the owner who has let the place rot for 20 years. It would be fantastic if it was a Caterham car Showroom, with flats above. Mind you a hotel next to the station makes sense and would generate some jobs, but I take your point about the travelodge. I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.
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On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 2.07pm

Originally posted by Stuk

If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it.

Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station.

Yes I reckon the Kenley one is a done deal (especially after the mysterious fire)
They are planning on converting the offices in Quadrant house Caterham high street into flats. Anything at Rose and Young would be an improvement one application is for flats. I think this is from the owner who has let the place rot for 20 years. It would be fantastic if it was a Caterham car Showroom, with flats above. Mind you a hotel next to the station makes sense and would generate some jobs, but I take your point about the travelodge.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 2.08pm
Originally posted by Stuk If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station. They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution. COYP
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Caterham 05 Feb 16 2.08pm

Originally posted by Stuk

If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it.

Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station.

They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know.

Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution.

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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 2.29pm
Originally posted by Apollofuzz Yes I reckon the Kenley one is a done deal (especially after the mysterious fire) They are planning on converting the offices in Quadrant house Caterham high street into flats. Anything at Rose and Young would be an improvement one application is for flats. I think this is from the owner who has let the place rot for 20 years. It would be fantastic if it was a Caterham car Showroom, with flats above. Mind you a hotel next to the station makes sense and would generate some jobs, but I take your point about the travelodge. There was a very similar mystery fire at one of the largest (unoccupied) properties on the Brighton road in Purley, next thing it's being converted in to a load of flats. Quadrant house could easily have another level or two added. The Rose & Young owner didn't have to pay rates if I recall, which is why he was happy to just let the land value increase and do nothing with it. I think it had to be done via CPO in the end. Caterham being forced to move to Crawley was daft, they should of been allowed to stay on that site as you say. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 16 2.29pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

There was a very similar mystery fire at one of the largest (unoccupied) properties on the Brighton road in Purley, next thing it's being converted in to a load of flats.

Quadrant house could easily have another level or two added. The Rose & Young owner didn't have to pay rates if I recall, which is why he was happy to just let the land value increase and do nothing with it. I think it had to be done via CPO in the end.

Caterham being forced to move to Crawley was daft, they should of been allowed to stay on that site as you say.

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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 2.41pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution. There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site. Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 16 2.41pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know.

Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution.

There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site.

Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course.

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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 3.03pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution. Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one) Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm) I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat I wear my war time coat in the wind and sleet.
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On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 3.03pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know.

Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution.

Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course.

As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)

Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.12pm
Originally posted by Stuk There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site. Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course. Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles. When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is. Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones) The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures. COYP
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Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.12pm

Originally posted by Stuk

There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site.

Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course.

Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles.

When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is.

Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones)

The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.16pm
Originally posted by Apollofuzz Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one) Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm) 2 big plots in Riddlesdown used for nothing, not even dog walking. One is owned by a house owner and the one up Mitchley towards Sanderstead roundabout you'd break an ankle trying to walk on. There is quite a bit of green around, just no one wants any more people near them. Stay away from multi-cultural areas, vote in the EU, vote no to any housebuilding. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.16pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)

Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm)

2 big plots in Riddlesdown used for nothing, not even dog walking. One is owned by a house owner and the one up Mitchley towards Sanderstead roundabout you'd break an ankle trying to walk on. There is quite a bit of green around, just no one wants any more people near them. Stay away from multi-cultural areas, vote in the EU, vote no to any housebuilding.

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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 3.20pm
Originally posted by Apollofuzz Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one) Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm) You couldn't get even a hundred on the range, it's the whole course that's been put forward. They've got Woldingham, Westerham, Addington, Surrey and Godstone in their group. I don't think they want to build on or sell any of them but have put the feelers out to see if a crazy offer makes it worthwhile. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 16 3.20pm

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)

Edited by Apollofuzz (05 Feb 2016 3.05pm)

You couldn't get even a hundred on the range, it's the whole course that's been put forward.

They've got Woldingham, Westerham, Addington, Surrey and Godstone in their group. I don't think they want to build on or sell any of them but have put the feelers out to see if a crazy offer makes it worthwhile.

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Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 3.25pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles. When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is. Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones) The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures. Nope, they'd need all the land and therefore the course. I'm all for shifting people around the country but the b****s just wont stay there. Even the Scots/Irish/Welsh populations in the south east add enormous pressure to the south east. Not to mention the northerners who come down south Monday to Friday to work and then f* off back for the weekends. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 05 Feb 16 3.25pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles.

When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is.

Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones)

The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures.

Nope, they'd need all the land and therefore the course.

I'm all for shifting people around the country but the b******s just wont stay there. Even the Scots/Irish/Welsh populations in the south east add enormous pressure to the south east. Not to mention the northerners who come down south Monday to Friday to work and then f*** off back for the weekends.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 05 Feb 16 7.01pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle So by that logic there would be no private rental market whatsoever which would mean that if you cant afford to buy a place and cant get a council home then your only option would be to stay with your family for the rest of your natural! What if you moved to another part of the country for a year or so with work, you would have to live in a hotel as there would be no private rental properties. Ridiculous statement. 1. These people should be taxed to the hilt to make +2 property ownership not worth the effort, imo. This is the point you responded to. Of course there will always be a bloody rental market but the clue/emphasis is on 'not making it worth the effort'. Jeez! For many years, renting was an option for the majority to leave home, gain some independence while saving a deposit for a mortgage. Today, similar people are paying for somebody else's mortgage (for very little effort on the part of the owner!) and have absolutely no chance of saving. That's just wrong. Time to move forward together.
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

So by that logic there would be no private rental market whatsoever which would mean that if you cant afford to buy a place and cant get a council home then your only option would be to stay with your family for the rest of your natural!
What if you moved to another part of the country for a year or so with work, you would have to live in a hotel as there would be no private rental properties. Ridiculous statement.

1. These people should be taxed to the hilt to make +2 property ownership not worth the effort,
imo.

This is the point you responded to.

Of course there will always be a bloody rental market but the clue/emphasis is on 'not making it worth the effort'. Jeez!
For many years, renting was an option for the majority to leave home, gain some independence while saving a deposit for a mortgage. Today, similar people are paying for somebody else's mortgage (for very little effort on the part of the owner!) and have absolutely no chance of saving.

That's just wrong.

Time to move forward together.

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