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Beastie Flag 08 Oct 15 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

I used to drink in the Portmanteau before home games.

It’s a Muslamistani mega-mosque now, so I read.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 3.52pm

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The origins of the Christmas is banned myth goes back to 1997 when Birmingham City Council's sought to create a campaign that encompassed Christmas, Diwali, the Frankfurt Christmas Market, Children in Need, the outdoor ice rink, New Year's Eve and various other city-wide celebrations. Preferring a single banner campaign, the outcome was 'Winterval', a portmanteau of 'winter' and 'festival'.
Despite the front page of the Council's Winterval brochure (which included details of all of the city's events including Christmas) having the word 'Christmas' on its front page three times - the street posters also prominently featured the word 'Christmas' - a local newspaper 'broke' the Christmas is banned story on 8 November 1998.
Within days, the story had gone national.
As the Guardian reported a few years ago, between the Times and Sunday Times the Winterval myth has been repeated 40 times since 1998, surpassed only by the Daily Mail repeated on 44 separate occasions. Elsewhere, the Sun has repeated it 31 times, the Daily Telegraph 22 and the Express 26. Tellingly, the Guardian has mentioned it just six times (a number of which seek to debunk the myth), the Daily Mirror just four.
Possibly more problematic than the mere repetition of the original myth is that, as with our conservative friend, the myth gets exported and mass-produced, endemic amongst a vast array of different - and nameless - councils and authorities all over the country.
Equally problematic is the way in which the original myth is also routinely and regularly updated and expanded.
So for example, one local newspaper recently claimed that councils had been given a set of "new rules" that enforce the banning of Christmas. Unsurprisingly, the newspaper failed to detail who created 'the rules' as also who might be required to enforce them.
A worrying part of this expansion is the inclusion of who is to 'blame' for the banning of Christmas. As the national newspaper articles referred to previously show, at least 15 of them directly claim that Christmas is being banned because it offends 'other faiths' (hence the Christmas cards from the Muslim Council of Britain).
A further 10 directly claim it is because Christmas offends 'ethnic minorities'.
Again somewhat unsurprisingly, none appear to be substantiated with evidence.


I do believe you are the first to use that word on Hol nick.

Respect!


Hold the respect - the article's a copy'n'paste from the Huffington Post


Ah...... I thought nick had widened his repertoire and was showing off.

It was, I forgot to include the link.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 3.54pm

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I couldn't be bothered to read this

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Standard...

 

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I couldn't be bothered to read this

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 1.35pm)

Standard...

Correct.

No one reads your posts.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 4.48pm)

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 08 Oct 15 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 11.41am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

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Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.


Re: Brixton '81. You obviously know so little yet are prepared to say so much. You may be blissful in your ignorance but it is bloody annoying for the rest of us.

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 08 Oct 15 4.59pm

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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 11.41am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.


Re: Brixton '81. You obviously know so little yet are prepared to say so much. You may be blissful in your ignorance but it is bloody annoying for the rest of us.

I had family in the area at the time. They told me exactly what went on. They moved away eventually - got fed up with being mugged and the constant racial harassment. You speak for the rest of the HOL posters do you then? By the way, would love to hear your neighbour's side of the story.


Edited by leggedstruggle (08 Oct 2015 5.03pm)

 


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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 11.41am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.


Re: Brixton '81. You obviously know so little yet are prepared to say so much. You may be blissful in your ignorance but it is bloody annoying for the rest of us.

I had family in the area at the time. They told me exactly what went on. They moved away eventually - got fed up with being mugged and the constant racial harassment. You speak for the rest of the HOL posters do you then? By the way, would love to hear your neighbour's side of the story.


Edited by leggedstruggle (08 Oct 2015 5.03pm)


1) Do some proper research on the subject.

2) In this instance, if they know their South London history, 'yes'.

3) He disappeared so no chance.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 5.13pm

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 3.54pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Oct 2015 1.35pm


I couldn't be bothered to read this

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 1.35pm)

Standard...

Correct.

No one reads your posts.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 4.48pm)


Then how did you know how to respond if no one reads them?

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 08 Oct 15 5.27pm

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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 4.59pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 4.54pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 11.41am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.


Re: Brixton '81. You obviously know so little yet are prepared to say so much. You may be blissful in your ignorance but it is bloody annoying for the rest of us.

I had family in the area at the time. They told me exactly what went on. They moved away eventually - got fed up with being mugged and the constant racial harassment. You speak for the rest of the HOL posters do you then? By the way, would love to hear your neighbour's side of the story.


Edited by leggedstruggle (08 Oct 2015 5.03pm)


1) Do some proper research on the subject.

2) In this instance, if they know their South London history, 'yes'.

3) He disappeared so no chance.

'Do some proper research'. LOL, I know people who were there! Nothing will shake your belief in left wing fairy tales will it.

Perhaps other HOL posters can indicate as to whether the sage of Devon speaks for them.

 


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Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 5.13pm

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Oct 2015 1.35pm


I couldn't be bothered to read this

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 1.35pm)

Standard...

Correct.

No one reads your posts.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 4.48pm)


Then how did you know how to respond if no one reads them?

It was just one word so I gave it the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.

If you could restrict your posts to one word in future, I'm sure they would be more popular.

 

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Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 11.41am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Oct 2015 11.23am

Quote leggedstruggle at 08 Oct 2015 10.42am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Oct 2015 10.21am

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Oct 2015 4.26am

Nothing wrong with moderate peaceful nationalism: It's the heartbeat of a nation.

However, violence and its support should always be rejected as a default means of combating views/people you don't agree with.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2015 4.29am)

Violence, or the threat of violence, is sometimes necessary for the greater good, against people who have begun implementing and turning their extreme views into action imo.

The SPG v Brixton/South London youth in 1981 springs to mind. As do the assassination of Heydrich and having to front up my cvnt of a neighbour a few years back .

There really is no limit to the fatuousness of your 'views' is there.

I disagree, when faced with violence, usually the only viable response is to answer in kind. I've never started trouble but I don't believe in shying away from bullys, thugs and intimidation either. It should never be your first choice or solution, but often the only response is to stand firm and make a fist.


Of course everyone who says violence is justified only mean it is justified by people whose aims they agree with. To say the 1981 Brixton riots were justified is merely the rewriting of history to glorify a sordid event carried out by yobs egged on by left wing agitators. Come on, why not go on to glorify Broadwater - glorify thugs trying to put a policeman's head on a stick.


Re: Brixton '81. You obviously know so little yet are prepared to say so much. You may be blissful in your ignorance but it is bloody annoying for the rest of us.

I had family in the area at the time. They told me exactly what went on. They moved away eventually - got fed up with being mugged and the constant racial harassment. You speak for the rest of the HOL posters do you then? By the way, would love to hear your neighbour's side of the story.


Edited by leggedstruggle (08 Oct 2015 5.03pm)


1) Do some proper research on the subject.

2) In this instance, if they know their South London history, 'yes'.

3) He disappeared so no chance.

'Do some proper research'. LOL, I know people who were there! Nothing will shake your belief in left wing fairy tales will it.

Perhaps other HOL posters can indicate as to whether the sage of Devon speaks for them.


Lord Scarman was neither lefty nor a fairy to my knowledge. Perhaps you know better?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Oct 15 5.51pm

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Oct 2015 3.54pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 08 Oct 2015 1.35pm


I couldn't be bothered to read this

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 1.35pm)

Standard...

Correct.

No one reads your posts.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Oct 2015 4.48pm)


Then how did you know how to respond if no one reads them?

It was just one word so I gave it the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.

If you could restrict your posts to one word in future, I'm sure they would be more popular.

And you did it again!

 

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