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Bert the Head Flag Epsom 27 Mar 15 11.01pm Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.23am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 9.19am

Beeb has it shaded to Miliband, which personally I thought was about right.

Well there's a surprise !

I never thought Cameron was at his best but Miliband was frankly embarrassing which I fully expected.

You seem to have the balance of sky news - and as for the BBC having a left wing bias I find that hard to believe. Nick Robinson the political editor of the BBC is so right wing that even Norman Tebbit wanted him chucked out of the Tory Party in the 80/90s as his extremism with the Young Conservatives was embarrassing them.

The idea that the BBC has a left wing bias is just another myth perpetrated by the almost exclusively right wing press.

If you are a rich man voting Tory fair enough, you might think an unequal society is in your interest; if you are not and vote Tory you are a Muppet.

Its very straight forward.


 

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imbored Flag UK 28 Mar 15 8.24am

Will be interesting to see if the polls move at all over the next few days.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Mar 15 8.40am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Bert the Head at 27 Mar 2015 11.01pm

The idea that the BBC has a left wing bias is just another myth perpetrated by the almost exclusively right wing press.

Only fairly recently Ian Katz, ex of the ghastly 'Guardian' was appointed "Newsnight" editor. Ex Labour MP James Purnell has been appointed Director of Strategy and ex economist from the TUC, Duncan Weldon has been appointed economics editor.NOT "Myths" but facts.


 

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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 11.01am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

Your response shows what it wrong with politics.

 

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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 11.06am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.01am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

Your response shows what it wrong with politics.


It's not wrong to expect our prospective PM candidates to be able to demonstrate normal human behaviour is it?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 11.09am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.06am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.01am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

Your response shows what it wrong with politics.


It's not wrong to expect our prospective PM candidates to be able to demonstrate normal human behaviour is it?


Then why are you supporting Farage?

 

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Hoof Hearted 28 Mar 15 11.18am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.09am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.06am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.01am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

Your response shows what it wrong with politics.


It's not wrong to expect our prospective PM candidates to be able to demonstrate normal human behaviour is it?


Then why are you supporting Farage?


Good/funny response... but he can manage to achieve all three of the criteria I set out above.

Currently there is no UKIP candidate formally adopted for my constituency so I'll have to default to conservative.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Mar 15 11.43am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.18am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.09am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.06am

Quote nickgusset at 28 Mar 2015 11.01am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 10.52am

Quote Kingvagabond at 27 Mar 2015 3.46pm

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 12.04pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 27 Mar 2015 11.33am

Quote topcat at 27 Mar 2015 10.47am

Quote Willo at 27 Mar 2015 9.54am

Quote johnno42000 at 27 Mar 2015 9.51am

I thought Miliband shaded it but there was a definite bias by the presenters. The woman, Burley, kept interrupting Miliband and the questions were far more personal. Paxman was a total t***.

Don't be so ridiculous. He was a total embarrassment but I never expected anything else. That said, Cameron wasn't at his best during the Paxman interrogation.

Would love to continue this debate but I am off to HQ now !!!!

Edited by Willo (27 Mar 2015 9.56am)

Willo, what I can't understand is why your leader bottled it and wouldn't go head to head with Ed.
Also, what do you think of William Haugue (with Cameron and Gove) trying to unseat the Speaker? Looked pretty underhand the way he went about it. A lot of Tories didn't like it.


No current leader wants a debate as they have everything to lose, the only time an incumbent will agree to a debate is if they are struggling in the polls

I can sort of understand that but against Ed? He lost out is a debate with the Hear Say bird and from what I hear on here (I never see it) Dave wipes the floor with him at PMQT.

Did he? I think he could have wiped the floor with her but thought if he did then he would get absolutely ripped apart for it.As it was she just continued to shout him down over and over again. To my mind that's not debating or getting your point across its just being an ignorant twot.


Yes he did!

A person contesting a General Election intending to be our next PM should be able to....

A) Eat a bacon sandwich without gurning
B) Out debate Mylene Klass
and
C) Be able to annunciate himself clearly... not saying "Tuffy Nuss" instead of Tough Enough.

Your response shows what it wrong with politics.


It's not wrong to expect our prospective PM candidates to be able to demonstrate normal human behaviour is it?


Then why are you supporting Farage?


Good/funny response... but he can manage to achieve all three of the criteria I set out above.

Currently there is no UKIP candidate formally adopted for my constituency so I'll have to default to conservative.


If you are voting to protest against the eu, there's always TUSC

 

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The White Horse Flag 29 Mar 15 5.14pm Send a Private Message to The White Horse Add The White Horse as a friend

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.18am

Currently there is no UKIP candidate formally adopted for my constituency so I'll have to default to conservative.

Please tell me you live in Bristol West?! It would please me to know you live in a constituency where the Greens out poll the Tories.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Mar 15 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote The White Horse at 29 Mar 2015 5.14pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.18am

Currently there is no UKIP candidate formally adopted for my constituency so I'll have to default to conservative.

Please tell me you live in Bristol West?! It would please me to know you live in a constituency where the Greens out poll the Tories.

At the last election the 'Green' candidate got @2,000 votes whilst the 'Conservative' candidate got @ 10,000 votes.


Edited by Willo (29 Mar 2015 5.41pm)

 

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Hoof Hearted 29 Mar 15 6.09pm

Quote The White Horse at 29 Mar 2015 5.14pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Mar 2015 11.18am

Currently there is no UKIP candidate formally adopted for my constituency so I'll have to default to conservative.

Please tell me you live in Bristol West?! It would please me to know you live in a constituency where the Greens out poll the Tories.


I'm in Bristol East constituency.

We now have a UKIP candidate, so I will be voting UKIP as originally planned.

AS far as I can see for recent Bristol West elections the conservative candidate has comfortably got more votes than the Greens?

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