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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 10.03pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So you ARE an extremist. I claim my prize ! Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. Prize denied.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 10.12pm | |
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No it isn’t and it makes some valid observations that the local education authority would do well to address. Every pupil should be appraised of all shades of political thought and encouraged to research and debate them. Hiding ideas tends to make them seem more interesting. So much better to have everything out in the open, warts and all, and for the positives and negatives to be examined.
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eaglesdare 24 Mar 24 10.24pm | |
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Trump's truth social app seems to be doing well.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 10.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
I say it because it’s my opinion. “We” means us, the voters, who collectively decided, by a small margin, they wanted to leave the EU. Which wasn’t a view shared by the majority of our elected representatives, who had the authority and opportunity to refuse to accept the result, given its closeness and subsequent revelations. Let alone the protracted negotiations over what was actually involved. It was a farce. I think it has been evident from the day a referendum was first requested by UKIP this was a self defeating idea. We should never throw our future to the winds of chance implicit in a referendum. This was a monumental blunder by the Tories who agreed solely to protect themselves. It was never going to produce a better outcome for the UK in today’s world. That was obvious to me from the start and nothing since has emerged to challenge that opinion. So it’s not too early to assess the result. It’s too late to stop it but never too late to reverse it. The sooner we recognise that we are now simply one part of Europe, it’s where we belong and how we will prosper, the better. The EU makes things simpler. Simpler is more efficient.
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georgenorman 24 Mar 24 10.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn’t imply you are lying. I said what I meant, that we only had your word for it, in other words no other supporting evidence. Memory is imperfect. As you confirm in your response by not recalling any of the detail. Many callers do prefer to remain anonymous so when they say they are a teacher there is nothing but their word this is true. You seem to have accepted that word without thought. Stalin wasn’t anonymous. His actions confirmed his attitude. If you trust your memory given the evidence you have provided yourself then you should not expect others to. There are no conclusions to be drawn, other than that you jump on things that you believe confirm your biases. I have no idea why you are obsessed with making reference to “gas appliances”. It’s not revelant to the discussion and bereft of humour. So weird! Of course you were implying that I was lying, that is clear and obvious. It is ridiculous to expect anyone to remember the exact time and date of a radio broadcast from which one remembered a particular item. Do you remember every detail of everything you have ever listened to? I can’t recall any radio caller giving full details of their identity. You stance is that we should dismiss anything anyone says on the radio because they might not be who they purport to be and could be lying. Whether Stalin was anonymous of not, his actions could well fit the profile of a far-right activist trying to discredit Communism (it makes you wonder about Steeleye)! Obviously, Stalin was not a right-wing agent provocateur, neither was the left-wing crackpot teacher who phoned the radio programme. Certainly I trust my memory – far more than giving credence to your dissemblings. You of course know full well the relevance of gas appliance references.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 10.47pm | |
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Have you actually been following the story? This is apparently a “meme” stock. Something that is grossly overvalued by sentiment. The stock value bears no relationship at all to the actual value of the business but is driven by Trump supporters trying to give him money to pay the huge deposits he has been ordered to make. It is said the business is bound to fail. Whether next week or next year is the only question. Trump though will now receive billions and probably sell most of his shares before it collapses. Something he has done before. The losers will be all the gullible individuals who are being conned into buying the shares to “protect him from the witch hunts”! Many of whom seem not to care at all. US politics is crazy.
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Teddy Eagle 24 Mar 24 10.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I say it because it’s my opinion. “We” means us, the voters, who collectively decided, by a small margin, they wanted to leave the EU. Which wasn’t a view shared by the majority of our elected representatives, who had the authority and opportunity to refuse to accept the result, given its closeness and subsequent revelations. Let alone the protracted negotiations over what was actually involved. It was a farce. I think it has been evident from the day a referendum was first requested by UKIP this was a self defeating idea. We should never throw our future to the winds of chance implicit in a referendum. This was a monumental blunder by the Tories who agreed solely to protect themselves. It was never going to produce a better outcome for the UK in today’s world. That was obvious to me from the start and nothing since has emerged to challenge that opinion. So it’s not too early to assess the result. It’s too late to stop it but never too late to reverse it. The sooner we recognise that we are now simply one part of Europe, it’s where we belong and how we will prosper, the better. The EU makes things simpler. Simpler is more efficient. So it's much your fault as anyone else's for electing representatives who weren't up to the job assuming it was an error to offer the referendum and another error to accept the result.
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eaglesdare 24 Mar 24 10.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have you actually been following the story? This is apparently a “meme” stock. Something that is grossly overvalued by sentiment. The stock value bears no relationship at all to the actual value of the business but is driven by Trump supporters trying to give him money to pay the huge deposits he has been ordered to make. It is said the business is bound to fail. Whether next week or next year is the only question. Trump though will now receive billions and probably sell most of his shares before it collapses. Something he has done before. The losers will be all the gullible individuals who are being conned into buying the shares to “protect him from the witch hunts”! Many of whom seem not to care at all. US politics is crazy. So essentially it's doing well thanks for clearing that up.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 10.55pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Of course you were implying that I was lying, that is clear and obvious. It is ridiculous to expect anyone to remember the exact time and date of a radio broadcast from which one remembered a particular item. Do you remember every detail of everything you have ever listened to? I can’t recall any radio caller giving full details of their identity. You stance is that we should dismiss anything anyone says on the radio because they might not be who they purport to be and could be lying. Whether Stalin was anonymous of not, his actions could well fit the profile of a far-right activist trying to discredit Communism (it makes you wonder about Steeleye)! Obviously, Stalin was not a right-wing agent provocateur, neither was the left-wing crackpot teacher who phoned the radio programme. Certainly I trust my memory – far more than giving credence to your dissemblings. You of course know full well the relevance of gas appliance references. Short and sweet. You have confirmed you have no evidence at all that this lady was actually a teacher but have provided evidence that your memory is incomplete. Evidence is valuable. Waffle in defence is not. I have no idea at all why you are obsessed with gas appliances. I am not. Even you must concede that I am more likely to know what I know than you, or anyone else. That doesn’t depend on memory. It’s now. You just think you know.
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georgenorman 24 Mar 24 10.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Short and sweet. You have confirmed you have no evidence at all that this lady was actually a teacher but have provided evidence that your memory is incomplete. Evidence is valuable. Waffle in defence is not. I have no idea at all why you are obsessed with gas appliances. I am not. Even you must concede that I am more likely to know what I know than you, or anyone else. That doesn’t depend on memory. It’s now. You just think you know. So, is your position that we should dismiss anything that anyone says on the radio because they might not be who they say they are and might be lying?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Mar 24 11.00pm | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
So essentially it's doing well thanks for clearing that up.
The con trick of a flotation to gullible MAGA investors is going extremely well. It’s unlikely though that Trump will be able to raise loans on the paper he receives as the banks will know that ultimately it has no value. So he will need to sell it off to the gullible in small parcels. They might start to smell rats.
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eaglesdare 24 Mar 24 11.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The con trick of a flotation to gullible MAGA investors is going extremely well. It’s unlikely though that Trump will be able to raise loans on the paper he receives as the banks will know that ultimately it has no value. So he will need to sell it off to the gullible in small parcels. They might start to smell rats. Selling something you have made billions from is a success.
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